AQo against a 2+2er

Soggy Salmon · #1 06-26-2004, 08:53 PM

Gods, I suck.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 (2+2er) raises, 4 folds, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG+1 (2+2er) calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, 2+2er checks, Hero bets, SB calls, 2+2er calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, 2+2er checks, Hero bets, SB folds, 2+2er calls.

River: (8.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
2+2er bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB
Main Pot: 10.50 BB, between 2+2er and Hero. > Pot won by 2+2er (10.50 BB).

Results in white below: 
2+2er shows Jc Kc (full house, kings full of tens).
Hero shows Ah Qd (two pair, kings and tens).
Outcome: 2+2er wins 10.50 BB. [/color

 Sigh. I should have known. A 2+2er check-calling twice must have meant something.

Sarge85 · #2 06-26-2004, 09:20 PM

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 Sigh. I should have known. A 2+2er check-calling twice must have meant something. 

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2+2er should have raised the flop

Sarge [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

bakku · #3 06-26-2004, 09:23 PM

Fold preflop unless you know 2+2er raises lightly. Check the turn.

Soggy Salmon · #4 06-26-2004, 09:34 PM

Yeah, the no raise on the flop really stumped me. I thought if he had a K he would raise, and he would probably raise with AA, QQ, JJ, TT, too. So I thought he either had 99, AJ or AQ like me and would fold to the turn bet.

Tosh · #5 06-26-2004, 09:35 PM

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2+2er should have raised the flop

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I like the line 2+2er took.

sfer · #6 06-26-2004, 09:50 PM

Nah. 2+2er played it fine. Hero could easily have AA/KK/AK/TT, although KK is highly unlikely. 2+2 won the max he could in this hand, although maybe not in the specific hand.

Hero should have checked the turn and folded the river. Also, the preflop 3-bet is a bit suspect unless the 2+2er is me. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Leo Bello · #7 06-26-2004, 10:23 PM

I don´t think 2+2er should have raised the flop, as it is clearly noted, Hero would have fold there.

bakku · #8 06-26-2004, 10:27 PM

Hero would have the odds to call a flop c/r, but I like villain's play here.

detruncate · #9 06-26-2004, 10:49 PM

Second that. An early position raise from a thinking player and I'm not excited about AQ.

Clarkmeister · #10 06-27-2004, 12:17 PM

1. The preflop 3-bet is fine. If he is raising with KJs there (and most 2+2ers will) then you are ok to 3-bet with AQ from late position. If he were UTG but you were UTG+1, it's probabaly still better to fold.

2. The guy with KJ should checkraise the turn, not the flop. No one folds to turn checkraises, especially online. He may even get 3-bet by AA, QQ or JJ that thinks he is making amove. No reason to worry about AK or TT yet, and he's got outs either way.