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Old 06-23-2004, 06:11 PM
tyfromm tyfromm is offline
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Default Right thing to do?

I know this probably belongs in the Internet Forum, but I'm not going into that zoo.

I was playing some 2/4 online yesterday against a guy that I have seen a lot, and he was winning an unbelievable amount in the last two days (300-400 each day at 2/4), including huge pots uncontested. On Monday I hadn't noticed anything strange but yesterday the play at the table was very suspicious. Two players in seats 3 and 8 kept raising each other on early streets only to get heads up on the river and have one of them fold. It happened 4 or 5 times in half an hour. $80 + pots going unchallenged on the river.

They both left within a minute of each other and I asked the other players if they had felt the play was suspicious. A couple did so I sent a note to Paradis support asking them to review it.

I got an e-mail back this morning telling me they had closed both accounts.

I hope I did the right thing. I assumed there would just be a warning or a flag placed on the accounts in case it happened again. I suppose it's possible it was just two bluffers running into each other, but on th eother hand I'm glad that they take the possibility of collusion seriously.

Any comments? Should I have kept my mouth shut unless I had more proof?
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Old 06-23-2004, 06:12 PM
Muckahaihan Muckahaihan is offline
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Hell no. I think you are 100% in the right. it seems to me that the evidence was pretty overwhelming.
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Old 06-23-2004, 06:41 PM
ggano ggano is offline
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Default Re: Right thing to do?

You asked them to review it, not to close their accounts. It's good to alert them to something suspicious. It's their job to decide whether to act on it or not.
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Old 06-23-2004, 06:47 PM
Muckahaihan Muckahaihan is offline
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If they were colluding, and it appears that it was deemed that they were, then I have zero sympathy for them.
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Old 06-23-2004, 06:48 PM
Yeknom58 Yeknom58 is offline
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Trust me, the site did some research before they closed the accounts. They would never take your email for face value. Any time you see things even remotely suspicious you should report it and don't feel bad about sending those email.
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Old 06-24-2004, 09:56 AM
tyfromm tyfromm is offline
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Default Re: Right thing to do?

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Trust me, the site did some research before they closed the accounts. They would never take your email for face value. Any time you see things even remotely suspicious you should report it and don't feel bad about sending those email.

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How can I be sure that they really had solid evidence?
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Old 06-24-2004, 10:03 AM
eh923 eh923 is offline
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Default Re: Right thing to do?

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How can I be sure that they really had solid evidence?

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Unless you work there, you don't have to be sure. Anyway, you can't really be sure that your complaint was the only one either.

No offense, but if you're going to be so wishy-washy about it, you probably shouldn't send any more complaints.
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Old 06-24-2004, 01:45 PM
rloftin rloftin is offline
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This was the right thing to do. We have to police our own play ground. Let the site be the judge. Good Job.
R Loftin
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Old 06-24-2004, 01:47 PM
Aces McGee Aces McGee is offline
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Why do you keep changing your username?

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Old 06-24-2004, 01:52 PM
WDC WDC is offline
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You can't but it isn't your call. However, I am sure that they did, they would not close accounts without solid evidence. It may not have been collussion (possibly money laundering) but they must of felt that the interegity of the games were compromised.
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