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lu_hawk · #1 06-21-2004, 11:14 PM

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, CO calls, 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (14 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, MP1 folds, MP3 calls, CO raises, SB calls, BB folds, UTG folds, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (11 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks, CO bets, SB calls, Hero raises, MP3 folds, CO calls, SB calls.

River: (17 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, SB folds.

Final Pot: 19 BB
Main Pot: 19 BB, between Hero and CO. > Pot won by Hero (19 BB).

Results in white below: 
Hero shows Kd Kc (two pair, kings and queens).
CO shows Ts 4s (two pair, queens and tens).
Outcome: Hero wins 19 BB. 

I tried something different here, I really didn't believe that CO had a Q because he probably would have popped me on the turn. 2 questions: How is calling the raise on the flop and then c/r the turn? And can I fold if my turn c/r is 3-bet by the CO?

jacki · #2 06-21-2004, 11:32 PM

Tough hand to play with so many seeing the flop.
This is usually weak thinking, but i have a hard time thinking none of these guys has a Q.
I guess I lead the turn, and proceed from there. If he raises, I'd probably (stupidly) call it down, but I'm not sure that's right either.

nepenthe · #3 06-22-2004, 02:01 AM

Nice turn raise. Just be prepared to fold to any 3-bet against a typical player.

Remember: this is Party 2/4. You're exactly right that a flop raise in this instance does NOT mean a Q a majority of the time. More than likely it means a 10, or a smaller PP. NH.