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2 Pair against Straight Draw on the Turn
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed)
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, Hero raises, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB 3-bets, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP3 calls. Comments: I know the preflop raise was out of line. It was a mistake thinking I was first in in a tight game where I had been playing very tight. But also keep in mind that UTG+1 was playing very loose at V$IP over 50% and PFR at 1%. Flop: (13 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font> SB bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP3 calls. Comments: You see I slow play my Top 2 Pair here planning to Rereraise on the Turn. Turn: (8.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font> SB bets, UTG+1 raises So here I am. Do I call 2 big bets or do I fold? With the bet and raise here I am thinking I must be against AK straight with my outs being a J or T to make a full house, or could be against QQ, JJ, or TT and leaving me no outs since a J or T would only give me a FH against a higher FH or 4oak. I suppose its also possible that I have the best hand and am against AA, KK, AQ or an open ended straight or flush draw. But I don't think UTG+1 is one who would raise in that position with a drawing hand. Please share your thoughts. I'll fill in the finish of the hand in a few days. |
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Re: 2 Pair against Straight Draw on the Turn
any thoughts?
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Re: 2 Pair against Straight Draw on the Turn
well?
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Re: 2 Pair against Straight Draw on the Turn
Fold preflop. Having raised preflop, raise the flop. Having not raised the flop (this was pretty bad, BTW), you have to 3-bet the turn and pray. You underrepresented your hand on the flop, so putting in uncomfortable extra bets on the turn is mandatory.
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Re: 2 Pair against Straight Draw on the Turn
This is a tough call - if it was heads up I would surely call this but three-way there are two many hands where you are screwed.
If you call two bets cold and then SB three-bets then what? what if MP then caps? I would muck and not slowplay next time - what were the results? |
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Re: 2 Pair against Straight Draw on the Turn
Well, SB did three-bets and then MP did cap.
I folded. And of course, I the made my full house. Both SB and MP had AK for the straight and split the pot. SB checked, MP bet, and SP called on the river. |
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Re: 2 Pair against Straight Draw on the Turn
I'm shocked that two players slow-played AK preflop.
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Re: 2 Pair against Straight Draw on the Turn
[ QUOTE ]
Well, SB did three-bets and then MP did cap. I folded. And of course, I the made my full house. Both SB and MP had AK for the straight and split the pot. SB checked, MP bet, and SP called on the river. [/ QUOTE ] I think it's a tough call. That queen just could have made so many hands that beat you. Against two players, I think your fold is a reasonable play. |
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Re: 2 Pair against Straight Draw on the Turn
Thanks for the comments.
To correct the conclusion: Hero folded and so did MP3. SB did three-bet and then UTG+1 did cap. And of course, I the made my full house on the river. SB checked, UTG+1 bet, and SB called. Both SB and UTG+1 had AK for the straight and split the pot. |
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