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Old 06-19-2004, 07:51 PM
kickingit kickingit is offline
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Default this has probley been ask but

how do u figure pot odds
and implied odds
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Old 06-20-2004, 03:48 PM
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Default Re: this has probley been ask but

buy theory of poker by sklansky and read it
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Old 06-20-2004, 10:14 PM
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Default Re: this has probley been ask but

3 handed No Limit holdem
blinds are $50/$100
each player has $5000 stacks
Button folds, SB completes, Big blind checks preflop.

SB has 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
BB has A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Flop is K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

SB checks, BB bets $400.

Should the SB call?

Well, here's the pot odds calculation:

Pot = $100 + $100 + $400 = $600.
It costs the SB $400 to call. He's getting $600:$400 odds. or 6:4, or 1.50 to 1.
However, the odds of him hitting his flush are over 4:1. (47 unseen cards, of which 9 are the remaining diamonds, 47:9 = about 4.25:1 against to hit the flush.

That means it's not a good call according to pot odds.

However, let's say that he somehow knows that the BB will call an all in bet even if the flush card comes on the turn. Should he still fold??

Well, let's see...
Pot = $600 + $4500 <----the amount left in the BB's stack.
Call = $400

In this extreme case of implied odds, the SB is getting $5100:$400 on his call. That's almost 13:1 on his call. Since he's only a 4.25:1 underdog to hit on the turn, he should now call.

Obviously, he doesn't know if he will get paid off if the flush gets there. Heck, he doesn't even know if his flush will be good even if it does get there. In this case, you should discount the amount you add to the pot to get the implied odds. Maybe half the time he will pay you off...maybe a third of the time...

If the actual pot odds are close, and you are drawing to the nuts or close to it, it doesn't take a whole lot of implied odds to make a call better than a fold.

Hope this helps...
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