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Old 06-19-2004, 07:50 PM
ddubois ddubois is offline
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Default I know I screwed the pooch with AQ

I would have had the same problem with AK. Seems like it should be a common post-flop situation, and I'm not exactly sure how to handle it. I guess it boils down to: "With missed overs, should I check/fold, or try to represent?" Trying to peel one off after the re-raise was bad, I know.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="C00000">saw showdown</font>

Hero (t800)
UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t800)
MP3 (t800)
CO (t800)
Button (t800)
SB (t800)
BB (t800)
UTG (t800)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t100</font>, <font color="666666">4 folds</font>, CO calls t100, Button calls t100, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>,

Flop: (t325) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets t200</font>, CO folds, <font color="CC3333">Button raises to t400</font>, Hero calls t200.

Turn: (t1125) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">Button bets t300 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t1425
<font color="green">Main Pot: t1125 (t1125), won by Button.</font>
<font color="green">Pot 2: t300 (t300), returned to Button.</font>
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Old 06-20-2004, 12:28 AM
HUSKER'66 HUSKER'66 is offline
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Default Re: I know I screwed the pooch with AQ

I would raise less preflop. It's the first hand and there's a long way to go. 4 x BB (60t) sounds better.(its enough to usually keep out the chasers and A/Q and A/K do better shorthanded)

If the flop hits you proceed, otherwise easy check/fold.

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Old 06-20-2004, 01:22 AM
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Default am I weak tight if I limp here?

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Old 06-20-2004, 01:46 AM
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Default Re: am I weak tight if I limp here?

Very. A 2.5x-4x raise here is acceptable. I'm leaning towards 2.5x because being in EP it should keep a lot of people out. If you get reraised a substantial amount you have not raised too much so you can easily lay it down.
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Old 06-20-2004, 02:08 AM
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Default Re: am I weak tight if I limp here?

The thing is, if you raise 3bb on level one, you still get like 4 callers. Hardly anyone even blinks at 60 chips. When I raise with anything less than KK, I'd rather everyone just fold.
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Old 06-20-2004, 02:16 AM
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Default Re: am I weak tight if I limp here?

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The thing is, if you raise 3bb on level one, you still get like 4 callers. Hardly anyone even blinks at 60 chips. When I raise with anything less than KK, I'd rather everyone just fold.

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What is this, a $5+1?

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Old 06-20-2004, 02:42 AM
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Default Re: am I weak tight if I limp here?

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The thing is, if you raise 3bb on level one, you still get like 4 callers. Hardly anyone even blinks at 60 chips. When I raise with anything less than KK, I'd rather everyone just fold.

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What is this, a $5+1?

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Not necessarily, but it IS a Party Poker tourney.
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Old 06-20-2004, 02:48 AM
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Default Re: I know I screwed the pooch with AQ

I think without any help on the flop, you should check to the power. The two calls to your preflop raise told me they had medium pair, low pair, AQ or AJ. CO folded after your T200 raise because he most likely had close to what you have....AQ or AJ. The reraise from the button told me he hit his set or he had A9 and paired the 9. Don't think he would have hung in there with A3 or A4 and seeing you bet T200 postflop. I would have folded after the button reraise.
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Old 06-20-2004, 02:54 AM
ThePopinjay ThePopinjay is offline
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Default Re: am I weak tight if I limp here?

Your thinking's off here. You shouldn't want to take down every single hand you play in, because it's just not possible. If you raise that 3xBB you should be happy to limit the field, which I know for a fact it will. The people who call probably have lesser hands than you, another thing that you should be happy about. You're equity in the hand is probably the highest, meaning that you're the most likely to take down the hand, but the board will dictate whether or not thats true.

And like I said already, I would not like to call a re-raise here, and with so little of your stack committed, you don't "have" to call at all.
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Old 06-20-2004, 03:10 AM
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Default Re: am I weak tight if I limp here?

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The thing is, if you raise 3bb on level one, you still get like 4 callers. Hardly anyone even blinks at 60 chips. When I raise with anything less than KK, I'd rather everyone just fold.

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What is this, a $5+1?

eastbay

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Not necessarily, but it IS a Party Poker tourney.

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This isn't the norm at $55 and above. Play is quite tight early.

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