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Old 06-13-2004, 12:19 PM
Tosh Tosh is offline
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Default Choose your preflop plays - sort of a quiz

Assume typical 10 handed online low limit game - between $5/$10 and $10/$20. The game can be quite laggish, nothing totally crazy though. Pots are 4 or 5 handed on average but a good percentage are raised. Just pick your choice from raise, fold or call for each one.

1) 88 after 2 folds.

2) Fairly aggressive UTG raises, you hold 99 UTG+1.

3) It is folded to you on the button, you hold K8o. BB is extremely tricky and defends his blind religiously, SB is tight.

4) 44 UTG.

5) KTs UTG.

6) Tight UTG raise, 1 cold call from a fish, you hold KQs on the button.

a) Both blinds are loose. b) Both blinds are tight.

7) 77 in your BB after an extremely aggressive button open raises and SB folds.

8) 22 in MP after 4 folds.

9) Tight UTG raise, 2 calls from LAGs, you hold deuces on the button.
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Old 06-13-2004, 12:25 PM
Clarkmeister Clarkmeister is offline
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Default Re: Choose your preflop plays - sort of a quiz

1) 88 after 2 folds.

Raise or call.

2) Fairly aggressive UTG raises, you hold 99 UTG+1.

Fold.

3) It is folded to you on the button, you hold K8o. BB is extremely tricky and defends his blind religiously, SB is tight.

Raise

4) 44 UTG.

Fold or call

5) KTs UTG.

Call or raise

6) Tight UTG raise, 1 cold call from a fish, you hold KQs on the button.

Fold regardless of the blinds

7) 77 in your BB after an extremely aggressive button open raises and SB folds.

Call or raise

8) 22 in MP after 4 folds.

Fold

9) Tight UTG raise, 2 calls from LAGs, you hold deuces on the button.

Call
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Old 06-13-2004, 12:47 PM
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Default Re: Choose your preflop plays - sort of a quiz

1) 88 after 2 folds.

raise, call, but really game depedent

2) Fairly aggressive UTG raises, you hold 99 UTG+1.

fold

3) It is folded to you on the button, you hold K8o. BB is extremely tricky and defends his blind religiously, SB is tight.

fold

4) 44 UTG.

easy fold

5) KTs UTG.

fold, or limp

6) Tight UTG raise, 1 cold call from a fish, you hold KQs on the button.

fold
both cases
a) Both blinds are loose. b) Both blinds are tight.

7) 77 in your BB after an extremely aggressive button open raises and SB folds.

3bet

8) 22 in MP after 4 folds.

easy fold

9) Tight UTG raise, 2 calls from LAGs, you hold deuces on the button.

fold

Yes, I know I play tight.
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Old 06-13-2004, 12:50 PM
Trix Trix is offline
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Default Re: Choose your preflop plays - sort of a quiz

1) Call
2) Fold
3) Fold(I normally dont go below K9 and this makes it worse..)
4) Fold
5) Fold
6) I fold both
7) 3Bet
8) Fold
9) Coldcall
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Old 06-13-2004, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: Choose your preflop plays - sort of a quiz

Cool, I like these kinds of things. I'd love to see more of them, too.

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1) 88 after 2 folds.


[/ QUOTE ] Raise. At a fairly passive table where I expect a few callers, I call. If I have to worry about a raise behind me, I'd rather be the one raising.

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2) Fairly aggressive UTG raises, you hold 99 UTG+1.


[/ QUOTE ] Muck it. I likely won't have the multi-way action I want for a set, and I won't know where I'm sitting with my mid-range pair. I'll wait for a better hand/time.

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3) It is folded to you on the button, you hold K8o. BB is extremely tricky and defends his blind religiously, SB is tight.

[/ QUOTE ] Tough one. I'd normally raise, and K8o strikes me as a lot better than random hands. But if BB is a sneaky fella, I think I'm better off folding. I don't think my own sneakiness level is up to snuff yet. So yeah, fold.

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4) 44 UTG.


[/ QUOTE ] Fold. I still don't like small pairs in early when the pre-flop action is aggressive.

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5) KTs UTG.


[/ QUOTE ] Call. I am confident that I know when this hand is a losing second best, and when it's good.

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6) Tight UTG raise, 1 cold call from a fish, you hold KQs on the button.


[/ QUOTE ] Muck it without a second thought.

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7) 77 in your BB after an extremely aggressive button open raises and SB folds.


[/ QUOTE ] 3-bet, ready to cap.

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8) 22 in MP after 4 folds.


[/ QUOTE ] Raise. It's a raise or fold kind of hand. Since I'm MP2 here, I think I've got a fair possibility of being heads-up or taking it down right here.

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9) Tight UTG raise, 2 calls from LAGs, you hold deuces on the button.

[/ QUOTE ] Fold.
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Old 06-13-2004, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: Choose your preflop plays - sort of a quiz

I just did the quiz on a piece of paper and I got the same results as you except for 5. I mucked KTs UTG. I thought this is an easy muck and aggressive game. Am I throwing it away too much?
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Old 06-13-2004, 01:04 PM
Clarkmeister Clarkmeister is offline
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Default Re: Choose your preflop plays - sort of a quiz

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I just did the quiz on a piece of paper and I got the same results as you except for 5. I mucked KTs UTG. I thought this is an easy muck and aggressive game. Am I throwing it away too much?

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If 4-5 people are seeing every flop, then there are enough loose opponents that I will be doing more than my share of dominating. That, coupled with suitedness and good postflop play make this hand +EV. If the game had been described as aggressive and 2-3 ways, I'd muck.
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Old 06-13-2004, 01:55 PM
Richard Berg Richard Berg is offline
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Default Re: Choose your preflop plays - sort of a quiz

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Raise. It's a raise or fold kind of hand. Since I'm MP2 here, I think I've got a fair possibility of being heads-up or taking it down right here.


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22 is not my favorite heads-up hand (should it be?), and you're not taking it down in 5/10.
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Old 06-13-2004, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: Choose your preflop plays - sort of a quiz

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4) 44 UTG.
Fold or call

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77-22 UTG in a game that is raised pre-flop around 30 % of the time and usually have 4 players seeing the flop, occasional 3, occasional 5, depending on if there's an early raise and so on. Those condititions are good enough to limp in with these hands UTG right? Would the same hold true for Axs? I know some players rank the pairs higher than Axs in these spots, some rank them lower. I'd prefer any pair over Axs, but that's most likely because I'm weak.

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5) KTs UTG.
Call or raise

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This one surprised me. But I suppose the fact that it's almost always 4-5 players in the pot that makes the hand playable in this position, regardless of it's 1 or 2 bets pre-flop? When do we want to raise with it? Occasional, to throw our opponents off?
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Old 06-13-2004, 02:22 PM
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Default Re: Choose your preflop plays - sort of a quiz

Heh, to be frank, I don't know how it plays heads-up. I imagine that having a made pair is good if you are called down by someone with only high cards. But I'd be praying for a low flop [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

But if a raise from middle has zero chance of folding everyone, then raising is longer a good option. My reasoning for a raise is the combination of being able to win then and there, and the [admittedly slim] chance of winning heads-up. I appreciate the comment; 5/10 is a limit I haven't played, and I am unfamiliar with the texture of the game. If I don't anticipate a chance at a win with my raise, then I will fold.
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