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Old 10-04-2001, 10:39 AM
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Default Semi-Bluff Created a Problem



After 4 limpers, I limped in the sb with Kh,3h


The flop came Ah,Ac,5s. It was checked around.


The turn was a 7h. I bet.


Question #1- Was this a bad bet? It can't be too wrong to check a possible 12 out hand, right? On the other hand, there was some chance I could win right away and I thought I wanted a better king to fold.


The bb raised and everyone folded to me. After some deliberation I called.


Question #2- I was deliberating making it 3 bets. The bb was loose/aggressive and often out of line, but he was also capable of folding a hand. He might have checked an ace (or better) on the flop, but it was likely he also had picked up a draw or was simply trying to protect a marginal hand. His being the bb meant that if he had a 7 or a 5, it could be 7X or 5X without a reasonable kicker. Then again, I can't entirely rule out the possibility I'm drawing dead. How many would make it 3-bets here?


I got lucky and rivered a king. I checked and called. He rolled pocket sixes and I won the pot. I think I may have played this hand poorly throughout. I'd appreciate comments. Thanks.


Kevin
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Old 10-04-2001, 11:03 AM
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Flop I'd act same way.


4th street - I think you played it ok. Flush draw is maybe what he put you on. Might have put you on a 3.


5th street - Again I think your play ias ok. Since he bet he put you on a 3 or he has an Ace. I'd call too.
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Old 10-04-2001, 11:12 AM
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I would bet on the turn almost everytime. If the BB is a decent player he should raise here with anyhand that has a chance to win the pot immediately. He has the best hand on the turn and should raise to keep anyone from drawing out.


the reason to reraise the turn is if he will semibluff raise and will fold if you reraise. Otherwise with the outs you have you should just call.


Pat



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Old 10-04-2001, 11:38 AM
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how would he put him on a 3????
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Old 10-04-2001, 12:15 PM
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Default I think you played it fine *NM*




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Old 10-04-2001, 01:43 PM
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Opponent value bets on river. Wouldn’t value bet if he thought opponent had A,K or 7. Opponent has showdown value with 6,6. Opponent thinks hero would play a 3 exactly same way by flop check and turn bet. Check to opponent on river. Opponent can check it back but bets. With a hand that has showdown value he could check it back if he was concerned about being beat and avoid possible river check raise. If opponent put hero on flush draw no need to bet river either. Opponent knows hero is in pretty deep by putting in 2 big bets on turn. A seven fell on turn so if opponent has 7 he ain’t laying it down. If he has K opponent knows he ain’t laying it down if won’t laydown a 7 and hero isn’t laying down an Ace. All this shows is that opponents bet is not a bluff but a value bet and the only value bet that makes sense is against a 3.
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Old 10-04-2001, 03:47 PM
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"The flop came Ah,Ac,5s. It was checked around.


The turn was a 7h. I bet."


i think you mean a 5...


makes sense now.


kevin did have a 3, thats what threw me.
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Old 10-04-2001, 03:49 PM
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Sorry I did mean 5
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Old 10-05-2001, 12:31 AM
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I think it was perfect,I can only guess the player(pk).


cheese
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Old 10-05-2001, 02:01 AM
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Thanks Patrick- You wrote:


"the reason to reraise the turn is if he will semibluff raise and will fold if you reraise. Otherwise with the outs you have you should just call."


This is just really close. Yes, he's capable of folding for a re-raise depending on what he had. But it wasn't just what he held that I was worried about. I also think this is a great example of how imortant it is to pay attention to an opponent's emotional state. This guy was starting to tilt and I was afraid this meant he'd be more likely to call me down with a marginal hand so I chose not to re-raise. Thanks again.



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