what to do about dealers 2 bad habits

well, the first one is that this one dealer doesnt keep the deck level. its consistently canted about 66 degress and sometimes goes to 90.


what should i do about this?


secondly, some dealers never shut up. one female dealer last night told me that it didnt matter since it didnt slow her down any. she was actually arguing with me! i told her no tips then, but im really a nice guy who jokes around a lot (with the players) and so im not sure she knew i was serious.


i was thinking i should just announce at the beginning of the down (when theyre getting time) that if they engage in chit chat (unrealated to running the game) then i will not tip them and also urge other players not to tip them.


what do you think? how do i get (some of) these dealers to shut up?


by the way, im the kind of guy who could say a little 15 second speech every single time a dealer came into the box.


brad

about the tilted deck, I've made a remark about this to the floorman when it's a problem. surprisingly the problem got fixed. but this was only for one particular dealer.


the other option is to get an end seat on the dearler's left, wear a baseball cap and slouch down real low in your chair [img]/images/smile.gif[/img]


The talking dealers don't really bother me as long as they don't screw up.

well im not talking about an occasional comment. im talking about a dealer having a lengthy conversation while they are dealing. i mean, you know that sooner or later theyre split focus is going to result in an error.


heck, the thing that got me going is this other guy starts talking about how a chatty dealer burned and turned a 2k pot.


you might not think its a big deal until it happends to you. but why wait?


brad

"well, the first one is that this one dealer doesnt keep the deck level. its consistently canted about 66 degress and sometimes goes to 90.

what should i do about this?"


Nothing.


"secondly, some dealers never shut up."


Some houses like their dealer's quiet, some like them to chit chat in the smaller games and zip up in the bigger games. Whatever the situation, or the problem, it's a house affair, and the worst place to bring it up is at the table, with the chatty dealer in the box. If you're out to prove something, by all means, make a fuss. But if you're only hope is to persuade others to change, then a gentler approach, with the right people at the right time, will improve your chances.


Tommy

yeah, i didnt say anything because i didnt know if it mattered about the deck being tilted. so it doesnt matter? (they do have the cut card on the bottom i guess).


about the talkers, then i guess im drawing dead, since the (old) guy who told the story knows everybody in the cardroom, answers the phone, etc.


but i just couldnt believe it. this guy is screaming at the dealer to shut up (by telling the table the story), she keeps up her conversation, im in seat #9, and kind of lean over and ask her quietly if she could just be quiet and deal, she says ok,


and then she just keeps it up, says shes not slowing the game down, and then proceeds to flip a card over and says that nobodys perfect.


so i lean over again and ask for my tip (that i had just given her) back, but she didnt give it back.


maybe you had to be there.


brad

You are outraged at the campaign finance reform act because it seems to censor free speech yet this is exactly what you want to do to the dealers!!


Having your cake and eating it too?


Jimbo

thats funny, thats what the dealer said. she goes, well, you guys talk and have a good time, why shouldnt i? (oops, i just flipped up the Ace of diamonds, you didnt want that, did you bob?).


now that i think of it , bob was really pissed because earlier a dealer flipped one of his cards up which would have won him a big pot.


but hey, come one, dealers should just do a good job and concentrate on running the game. i doubt anyone would say that that is wrong.


brad

on the other hand, perhaps im looking at this all wrong.


bob, the guy who started this, really doesnt like me and needles me in a very mean way.


maybe when hes in the game (hes very much a regular) i should start talking to the dealer nonstop.


i need to get over this concept of fairness, right, etc.


its just that i wasnt raised according to revenge-based ethics [img]/images/smile.gif[/img]


brad