how would you play this better?

Noodles · #1 05-17-2004, 03:55 PM

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Noodles is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG folds, Noodles raises, UTG+2 3-bets, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, Noodles calls.
Had seen this guy 3 bet pf a few hands ago and had AA

Flop: (7.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players) 
Noodles checks, UTG+2 bets, Noodles raises, UTG+2 3-bets, Noodles calls.
Anyone cap the flop here?

Turn: (6.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players) 
Noodles checks, UTG+2 bets, Noodles calls.

River: (8.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players) 
Noodles checks, UTG+2 bets, Noodles calls.

Final Pot: 10.75 BB
Main Pot: 10.75 BB, between Noodles and UTG+2. > Pot won by Noodles (10.75 BB).

Results in white below: 
Noodles shows Qs Qh (one pair, queens).
UTG+2 shows Ks Ac (high card, ace).
Outcome: Noodles wins 10.75 BB.

CardCuda · #2 05-17-2004, 04:04 PM

Hey noodles -

Personally I cap pre-flop here heads-up. (could be a bad thing I guess).

I cap the flop as well here and lead the turn. If still finding resistance I'll call down.

Noodles · #3 05-17-2004, 04:13 PM

yea my play looks weak here,all that can beat me is JJ,KK or AA.so i was fearing monsters i think

Sarge85 · #4 05-17-2004, 05:53 PM

Outside of capping PF I think you played it about par for the course.

Him coming at you after a CR on the flop, would generally indicate some pretty big guns heads up - generally that would mean he's certainly not afraid of top pair.

Looking at that fact he can beat a pair of Jacks or better....since you have two of the queens, that would make me a little concerned.

I admire his tenancity though [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

tripdad · #5 05-17-2004, 06:12 PM

i think you played it very well. if you cap preflop, he probably will check through the flop. you got an extra bet when you called his reraise and check/raised him. good job.

cheers!

my line: preflop cap, lead out all subsequent streets. just call down if raised anywhere.

bernie · #6 05-17-2004, 06:30 PM

I think you played it fine.

Once he 3 bets your c/r on the flop, and its HU, to the showdown we go. Not exactly enjoying the trip, but ya may be suprised and drag the pot.

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bernie · #7 05-17-2004, 06:35 PM

Think of the ratio of him holding TT/JJ/QQ/KK/AA to having AK. It's pretty close to even. Many wont 3 bet AQ here on the flop, so throw that out. But maybe, just maybe AJs? Which may tip it to a cap on the flop.

I think his reaction to your flop c/r makes up for you not capping preflop.

Yeknom58 · #8 05-17-2004, 06:39 PM

You're a little wishy washy on this one. You don't cap preflop because you fear KK/AA. Now when the flop comes down J high you CR him??? If you were behind preflop, you're behind on the flop, nothing has changed. Now if your reasoning had been...I only called the 3 bet preflop so I can CR him on a non Ace flop then I would like the way you played this hand.

I would have capped preflop, bet the flop and if he raised me, I would think about folding, then I would pinch my leg and call down hoping to see exactly AK or AJs. Of course the easiest way to play this hand is to flop set...I can't believe you didn't see that!!

jmark · #9 05-17-2004, 06:45 PM

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Had seen this guy 3 bet pf a few hands ago and had AA

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You gave him credit for AA when he 3-bet, so why did you checkraise him on the flop then call a 3-bet? Did you think he had an equal chance at having AK and were waiting to see if one flopped?

unome · #10 05-17-2004, 07:11 PM

I think the only questionable thing here is if the 3 bet after the flop was the right move. Personally, out of position, I just call the 3 bet preflop and then bet into him on the flop. The early 3 bet by a player you saw 3 bet preflop with Aces not too long ago would lead me to believe (unless proven otherwise by future hands) that he bets strong hands. A-K is just about the only hand you can hope he has that you can beat after the flop. I don't think he's going anywhere here HU so the check and call on turn and river are fine in case he is bluffing and would fold to any bet*.

* You only hope he doesn't spike the A or K.