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Old 05-15-2004, 02:07 AM
Saborion Saborion is offline
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Default QQ being c/r on rivered backdoor flush board

I'm new at the table, it's Party AND on my laptop, so no notes,

The pot is protected, but the check-raiser is low stacked, and I sometimes see them do weird things. That and a big pot. Still a fold on the river? And my play until the river, no other way to play it right?

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (10 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(5 players) </font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (9 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players) </font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP1 calls.

River: (13 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players) </font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB folds, <font color="CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, Hero calls, SB folds.

Final Pot: 18 BB
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: 18 BB, between MP1 and Hero.</font>
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Old 05-15-2004, 02:56 AM
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Default Re: QQ being c/r on rivered backdoor flush board

I don't think I can fold that without a good read.
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Old 05-15-2004, 03:07 AM
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Default Re: QQ being c/r on rivered backdoor flush board

Would you bet the river?
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Old 05-15-2004, 03:17 AM
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Default Re: QQ being c/r on rivered backdoor flush board

Yes.
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Old 05-16-2004, 01:01 AM
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MP1 had J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] for the rivered flush.
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Old 05-16-2004, 02:31 AM
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Default Re: QQ being c/r on rivered backdoor flush board

Isn´t flatcalling the flop and raising the turn superior to raising the flop, when he cant shut anyone out with the flop raise ?
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Old 05-16-2004, 02:52 AM
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Default Re: QQ being c/r on rivered backdoor flush board

The thought occured to me, but I thought that by raising the flop, I'm letting people know I have a good hand, and thus they may fold to my turn bet. I'm not expecting anyone to fold to my flop raise since they "already have one bet in there", but that's often true for the turn as well. Assuming the flop bettor bets again, which he might not do. In that case, waiting is clearly superior, especially since someone closer to my right might bet, enabling me to make most players face 2 bets instead of one. That would be nice. Not too unlikely either since the flop bettor might bet a draw, trapping everyone in between, and then check the turn. That's maybe giving him too much credit, but the possibility adds even more to the call the flop and raise the turn. Hmm... I'm off.
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Old 05-16-2004, 03:04 AM
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Default Re: QQ being c/r on rivered backdoor flush board

This hand is somewhat similar though the pot is somewhat bigger.
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Old 05-16-2004, 06:04 AM
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I do understand that you called him. Cant win them all
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