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Kill Me
Last night I had AA and KK back to back at the same table. Anything I should have done differently?
I have a read on a few players at the table, but not on my particular opponents in this case. Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $2. UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 (poster) folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+2 calls. Flop: (8.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players) </font> <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, UTG+2 calls. Turn: (5.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players) </font> UTG+2 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP2 raises</font> (wtf??? set?? should I bail here?), UTG+2 folds, Hero calls. River: (9.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players) </font> Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls. Final Pot: 11.75 BB <font color="#990066">Main Pot: 11.75 BB, between Hero and MP2.</font> > <font color="white">Pot won by MP2 (11.75 BB).</font> Results in white below: <font color="white"> Hero shows As Ac (one pair, aces). MP2 shows 7d 6s (two pair, sevens and sixes). Outcome: MP2 wins 11.75 BB. </font> MP2 in the previous hand is MP1 in this hand and shall be referred to from her on out as Man Who Hates Money (MWHM). Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MWHM calls, MP2 folds, <font color="CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP1 calls (4! ), MP3 calls. Flop: (11.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players) </font> <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MWHM folds, MP3 calls. Turn: (6.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players) </font> <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls. River: (8.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players) </font> <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP3 raises</font> (wtf??? no way he has a 7, right?? fold???), Hero calls. Final Pot: 12.75 BB <font color="#990066">Main Pot: 12.75 BB, between Hero and MP3.</font> > <font color="white">Pot won by MP3 (12.75 BB).</font> Results in white below: <font color="white"> Hero shows Ks Kh (full house, sevens full of kings). MP3 shows Ad As (full house, sevens full of aces). Outcome: MP3 wins 12.75 BB. </font> Just curious: If I get KK 100 times, how many of those times will I run into AA? Anyone know the odds on this? |
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New Subject: How to fold a Big PP. teach Me. N/M
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Re: New Subject: How to fold a Big PP. teach Me. N/M
Hey Pokerbob:
I wouldn't fold in either of these hands. --Rico |
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Re: New Subject: How to fold a Big PP. teach Me. N/M
Its limit poker, don't fold big PPs, just slow down and call.
Good luck, play well, Bob T. |
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Re: New Subject: How to fold a Big PP. teach Me. N/M
It's rarely going to be correct to fold a big pocket pair heads up on party 2/4.
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Re: Kill Me
You did fine on both hands.
If you hold KK, AA will appear in one hand, 6 times out of 1225, or once every 204 hands. So in a ten handed game, your opponents will hold it once every 22.66 hands. You should do the math to check mine, because it is a good excersize for holdem players. Good luck, play well, Bob T. |
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Re: Kill Me
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You did fine on both hands. [/ QUOTE ] I disagree. I think the hero should have three-bet the river with his KK. SpaceAce |
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Re: Kill Me
They are both obviously tough beats.
In hand one, I probably would have 3-bet the turn as the opponent could have been betting his KQ or AQ on the larger street. If anymore strength is shown (a re-raise), it would either be a tough lay down or a check-call down. As for hand two, I would have 3-bet the river as the only card beating you here is the other 7 which is unlikely or AA. It sucks that you ran into AA but I believe that not 3-betting in the long run in these situations will lose you bets. Haupt_234 |
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Re: Kill Me
I would have 3bet the river on the 2nd hand.
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Re: Kill Me
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Turn: (5.75 BB) 7 (3 players) UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, MP2 raises (wtf??? set?? should I bail here?), UTG+2 folds, Hero calls. [/ QUOTE ] If you really think this, I'd bail on poker. Cash out your Poker bankroll and buy something nice with it before it's all gone. No, seriously, folding here is terrible. |
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