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Old 05-03-2004, 02:52 PM
Gamblor Gamblor is offline
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Default The proposed Palestinian National Anthem

The Israeli national anthem - HaTikva - "the Hope"
As long as deep in the heart,
The soul of a Jew yearns,
And forward to the East [Toward Jerusalem]
To Zion, an eye looks
Our hope will not be lost,
The hope of two thousand years,
To be a free nation in our land,
The land of Zion and Jerusalem.


The proposed Palestinian National Anthem
Palestine History

My country, my country
My country, the land of my grandfathers
My country, my country
My country, my nation, the nation of eternity
With my determination, my fire and the volcano of my revenge
The longing of my blood to my land and home
I have climbed the mountains and fought the wars
I have conquered the impossible, and crossed the borders
My country, my country, the nation of eternity
With the resolve of the winds and the fire of the guns
And the determination of my nation in the land of struggle
Palestine is my home, Palestine is my fire, Palestine is my revenge and the land of eternal
My country, my country, the nation of eternity
I swear under the shade of the flag
To my land and nation, and the fire of pain
I will live as a guerrilla, I will go on as guerrilla,
I will expire as guerrilla until I will be back

My country, my country, the nation of eternity

You're right guys, they've got "peace on the brain".

I can hear Chris foaming at the mouth already; Propaganda, Zionazi, racist, blah blah blah.

How does one defend against this kind of foe?
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Old 05-03-2004, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: The proposed Palestinian National Anthem

That's some pretty sick stuff there.

By the way, I cancelled my Atlantic City trip, so I guess I'll have to wait to take ACPlayer's money some other time;-)

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Old 05-03-2004, 04:55 PM
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Default Re: The proposed Palestinian National Anthem

i don't get this at all. you highlight certain phrases in the national anthem that can be considered violent. what does that prove really? what about "the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air" etc.?
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Old 05-03-2004, 06:57 PM
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Default Re: The proposed Palestinian National Anthem

I'm contrasting the two anthems to show that the Israelis are fundamentally more peace-oriented; that peace is a systematic part of the culture from the government on down. Yet they have been dragged, against their will, into a perpetual war of survival since 1948 - not multiple wars, but one war that has run on-and-off for as long as there has been Jewish self-determination in the region. It is the mere presence of Jews that has the Arabs up in arms; they consider the entire land west of the Jordan as "occupied", and will not rest until the entire land is Arab-controlled.

Sounds romantic from an Israeli point of view, no? It's still the reality.

I didn't say a word about the United States' anthem;

But nowhere in there does it talk about revenge, [i]guerillas until death (in other words, martyrdom), spilling blood, etc. etc.
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Old 05-03-2004, 07:35 PM
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Default Re: The proposed Palestinian National Anthem

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Yet they have been dragged, against their will, into a perpetual war of survival since 1948

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True, however, Palestinians were forced out of their own homeland because of the creation of Isreal. They've been trying to survive too.

About the anthem part...
They love their country so much that they'd be willing to die for it, etc. etc. It really is no different than America's national anthem, which is really an account of a a battle in the Revolutionary War, which they fought for their freedom.

Also, I would want to able to speak Arabic and listen to this proposed anthem before I trust an English translation. It may not be as intense as it seems in English.
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Old 05-03-2004, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: The proposed Palestinian National Anthem

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It really is no different than America's national anthem, which is really an account of a a battle in the Revolutionary War

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I thought it was during the war of 1812

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Old 05-03-2004, 07:50 PM
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thought it was during the war of 1812

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You're probably right. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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Old 05-03-2004, 07:53 PM
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It really is no different than America's national anthem...

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No different, huh?
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Old 05-03-2004, 08:01 PM
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Ok, poor choice of words. Similiar to.
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Old 05-03-2004, 08:08 PM
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Hehe 1812?

There wasn't much to sing about for the Americans after that one.

If you'll recall, your invasion of Canada at Fort York and Lundy's Lane didn't go very well.

After all, I'm a Canadian, not an American.
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