was it ok to play it this way

Noodles · #1 04-01-2004, 04:54 PM

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) Table not particularly aggressive,no read on this guy though!converter

Preflop: Noodles is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, Noodles raises, Button 3-bets, SB folds, BB folds, MP1 calls, Noodles caps, Button calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP1 checks, Noodles bets, Button raises, MP1 folds, Noodles 3-bets, Button calls.

Turn: (9.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Noodles bets, Button raises, Noodles calls.

River: (13.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Noodles checks, Button bets, Noodles calls.

Final Pot: 15.75 BB
Main Pot: 15.75 BB, between Button and Noodles. > Pot won by Noodles (15.75 BB).

Results in white below: 
Noodles shows Ah Ac (two pair, aces and queens).
Button shows 2d Kd (two pair, queens and twos).
Outcome: Noodles wins 15.75 BB.

WalnutFlush · #2 04-01-2004, 05:01 PM

I think you played it well. Only thing is perhaps you should've raised the turn. Perhaps he's just betting a flush draw for value, and you should make him pay. If he's got a Q or boat that sucks, but you've got to find out where you stand on the turn. With that information you can move on to the river with a better knowledge of where you stand.

AviD · #3 04-01-2004, 05:01 PM

Wow, put a crosshair on Button's forehead...add that great man to your buddy list! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I think you played it fine, assuming you are assuming Button actually has a clue. Apparently we both assumed wrong.

AviD · #4 04-01-2004, 05:03 PM

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Perhaps he's just betting a flush draw for value, and you should make him pay.

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He has two diamonds and there isn't a diamond on the board. He'd be drawing until the end of time and still not hit his flush.

Raise him for being lost in dementia, not for chasing a flush draw!

Brian · #5 04-01-2004, 05:06 PM

Hi Noodles,

I do not see any other way to play it without any specific reads.

-Brian

WalnutFlush · #6 04-01-2004, 05:24 PM

there are two hearts out on the board from the flop and we've only got one, albeit it is the nut. with three hearts out there on the river and us only having one, there is a very real chance of a flush.

AviD · #7 04-01-2004, 05:34 PM

I was replying to the results in which...

Button shows 2d Kd (two pair, queens and twos).

WalnutFlush · #8 04-01-2004, 05:37 PM

Right, didn't catch that the first time.

However, we don't know that during the game he's got no cards to a flush, and thus we have to play assuming a possible flush is out there while there are two suited cards.

AviD · #9 04-01-2004, 05:47 PM

Yes, my fault, we replied from two different perspectives! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Noodles · #10 04-02-2004, 09:46 AM

"Perhaps he's just betting a flush draw for value, and you should make him pay."
I really dont get this reasoning,a lot of people seem to bandy that phase about "betting a flush draw for value" Can you explain what it means in math terms in this context?