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Old 03-31-2004, 01:43 PM
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Default KQo in the BB, calling a button raise

I wasn't quite sure to do with this potentially dominated hand, 3-bet/fold in terrible position? Call?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP2 posts a blind of $2.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 (poster) checks, MP3 calls, CO folds, <font color="CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB folds, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, Button calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP3 folds, Button calls.

River: (12.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 folds, Button calls.

Final Pot: 14.25 BB
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Old 03-31-2004, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: KQo in the BB, calling a button raise

I'd probably fold preflop because the button is more likely to have you dominated with three players in. With no one or one limper in, I'd definitely call or three bet, depending how loose I think the button is. I don't think calling the raise was horrible, though. I might have checked the river, but otherwise like your play. Hopefully he had an underpair. If he had AK he should have raised the turn.
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Old 03-31-2004, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: KQo in the BB, calling a button raise

I don't think you can check-call this river. It's a blank, and MP1 sure didn't say "hey, i have the flush" on the turn.
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Old 03-31-2004, 02:47 PM
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Default Re: KQo in the BB, calling a button raise

Yeah, you're probably right. I'm not worried as much about the flush as about a passively played AK from the BB. But he's much more likely to have an underpair to the kings.
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Old 03-31-2004, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: KQo in the BB, calling a button raise

I'd probably fold preflop because the button is more likely to have you dominated with three players in

So when I raise T9s on the button after 2 limpers and a poster you are folding KQo in the BB? Well, I know exactly where I want you to sit next time you are at Foxwoods. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] (Then I'll be raising 76s after limpers, heh! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img])

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Old 03-31-2004, 02:54 PM
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Default Re: KQo in the BB, calling a button raise

I think I muck pre-flop, as KQo gets ugly if you hit a K or a Q. That said, if there wasn't a MP limper and the button was aggressive, I'd 3-bet him and then lead out on the flop no matter what hit.
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Old 03-31-2004, 02:55 PM
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Default Re: KQo in the BB, calling a button raise

Sometimes you will lose to passive-AK, most of the time you will not. I really like the way you played the hand and nice table selection.

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Old 03-31-2004, 02:56 PM
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Default Re: KQo in the BB, calling a button raise

I like it. The tough thing is, how do you play if the button reraises the flop?
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Old 03-31-2004, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: KQo in the BB, calling a button raise

I think I muck pre-flop, as KQo gets ugly if you hit a K or a Q

Yikes. No. What's KQo without hitting a K or a Q? king-high.

It gets ugly if you overplay it, but otherwise it's a pretty profitable hand, assuming that your opponents are capable of raising something other than AA, AK, KK, and QQ.

Playing KQ scared is a great way to miss bets. It's one of my favorite hands.

The combination of position, possibility of domination and large number of likely callers is what made me wonder about 3-bet/call/fold. The potential for domination itself is not enough reason for me to toss the hand for 1 bet.
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Old 03-31-2004, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: KQo in the BB, calling a button raise

I'd probably call down and hope my backdoor flush draw hits.
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