Thin river value bets

CrackerZack · #1 03-05-2004, 09:21 AM

I go back and forth on these. I tend to go through trends where I'm betting the river all the time and being shown better hands a lot more than I like so I slow down, then I start missing some thinner bets on the river that should be made. I'm in the latter now.

Party 5/10

Tables is semi-loose and semi-aggressive. I could probably find a better one but I'm lazy and the apprentice is on, and I'm not really paying any attention anyway, so who cares. Btw this hand was odd for this table, rarely more than 5 to a flop usually 3 or 4.

PF:
UTG limps, UTG+2 limps, MP limps, CO limps, I limp on the button with Js 9s, blinds join the fun. 7 to the flop for 7 SBs

Flop: 9d 7d 6h
SB checks, BB bets, UTGs fold, MP calls, CO raises, I 3-bet, BB and MP fold, CO calls. Heads up to the turn.

Turn: [9d 7d 6h] 2s (sexy)
CO checks, I bet, he calls.

River: [9d 7d 6h 2s] Kh
CO checks, I ......

Thoughts? Clear bet? Clear check?

Mike Gallo · #2 03-05-2004, 09:40 AM

Bet, he will call you if he has 88 78 89..you get the point.

GuyOnTilt · #3 03-05-2004, 09:42 AM

Hey Zack,

I'm pretty sure Sklansky would tell you to fold the flop, so I'm going to as well.

GoT

CrackerZack · #4 03-05-2004, 09:46 AM

If he told me to fold J9s after 4 limpers on the button, I'd put all his books I own on ebay.

Mike Gallo · #5 03-05-2004, 09:51 AM

I'm pretty sure Sklansky would tell you to fold the flop, so I'm going to as well.

Care to back this one up?

bunky9590 · #6 03-05-2004, 09:53 AM

I'll fire again at that river Zack.
As long as a 4 str8 or the third flush card didn't hit on the river, its fire away.

If he has you beat god bless him, looks like 89 to me.

Joe Tall · #7 03-05-2004, 10:06 AM

I fire on the river. This is party so A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] will call.

Peace,
Joe Tall

Festus22 · #8 03-05-2004, 10:10 AM

That's the one I have more doubt in than the river bet. Routine without reads?

CrackerZack · #9 03-05-2004, 10:12 AM

If no 3-bet, how do I continue on from the flop?

Festus22 · #10 03-05-2004, 10:25 AM

There was a similar post on the Mid/High Stakes forum.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...14&fpart=1

Sklansky gave the raise advocators a "Shame on you". I'm trying to add a ton more aggression to my game but how is is too much? Maybe the S&M guys might be off base here. Calling is awful but would a fold be better?