QJs in EP

[BottlesOf]

Party Poker 2/4 (10 handed)
Hero has J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and is EP1

Hero limps, EP2 limps, MP1 limps, MP2 limps, MP3 limps, Button limps, SB limps, BB checks

Flop(8 SB): T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

SB bets, BB calls, Hero calls, EP2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, Button folds

Turn(7 BB): Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, EP2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, SB calls, BB calls

River(12 BB): 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, EP2 calls, MP1 calls, SB folds, BB raises, BB is, Hero calls, EP2 calls, MP1 folds

[Joe Tall]

Ok, Bottles...wtf is that?? BRING BACK PARIS!!!

I think you can fold this river in a protected pot but with the pot being so big the call is not all the bad.

Peace,
Joe Tall

[BottlesOf]

Fold?

Joe I think you may have misread the board/my holding.

[Tosh]

Joe he has a straight now. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

If I recall correctly the raiser was now all-in here if that makes a difference.

[Joe Tall]

I think it's the big scary dude. BRING BACK PARIS!!

I did pop an Oxy tonight, so I'm a little foggy, sorry.

Peace,
JT

[Joe Tall]

Opps, I've got to hit the sack.

If the river raiser is all-in he should re-raise the river.

Peace,
Joe Tall

[BottlesOf]

If the river raiser is all-in he should re-raise the river.

That's what I was getting at with this hand. However, I wanted those two to come bhind me, I feel I may have forced them both out by raising, and I'm not sure I wanted that.

Anyone who's not terrified of Adebisi wanna give it a shot?

[CrackerZack]

I hope you misread the board. The only way I'd fold this is if I had a heart attack at the table and there was a rule vs showing down a hand when you're dead.

The only question is whether or not to reraise. I think you're surely chopping with BB so a call going for overcalls is probably best.

[steveyz]

I would think that the fact that the river raiser is all-in argues for just calling the raise and hope for overcallers. If you have the raiser beat, you won't be getting any more money off him, and you'll only drive out the overcallers who definitely do not have you beat.

This case boils down to whether you think the probablility of the overcallers calling 2 bets is at least half the probability of them calling 1 bet. I really doubt it.

[bernie]

it wouldve crossed my mind.

just a thought.

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