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Old 02-01-2004, 03:58 PM
Snow Snow is offline
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Default Maximum number of outs in holdem

I was making this little chart of the odds/percent corresponding to the number of outs you have from the flop and turn.
The finished chart gave me the odds for 1 .. 30 outs but then i realized that there is probably a upper limit to how many outs you possibly can have to improve a hand. Does anyone know?

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Old 02-01-2004, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: Maximum number of outs in holdem

Off the top of my head, the best I could come up with was 25 outs:

Opponent - 2s 2d

You - Ks Qs

Board - Ts Js 8c 8h

Outs - 3 9's (non-spade), 3 T's, 3 J's, 3 Q's, 3 K's, 3 A's (non-spade), 7 spades = 25 outs

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Old 02-02-2004, 07:34 AM
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Default Homer Jay, closing in on the big 5k *NM*

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Old 02-02-2004, 07:37 AM
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Default Re: Maximum number of outs in holdem

...how many outs you possibly can have to improve a hand

If by "improve a hand" you include outs to a chop, then you can have every card in the deck.

Say you have A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and your opponent has A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

How many outs do you have if the board is A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]?
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Old 02-02-2004, 07:41 AM
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Default By the way, Homer Jay...

...it's rhyming night on the forum. I am green with envy for your \'-free Tunnel. At one point, I assumed that yours was just a greater title to which I could aspire. Now it appears that there is an alternate explanation. I will get to the bottom of this.
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Old 02-02-2004, 12:58 PM
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Default Re: By the way, Homer Jay...

Tell you what. I assume your name will be in red soon enough, correct? I'll trade you my \'-free status for your redness. This will be a small price to pay as there are already 4-5 people with red names, but only true 'Carpal Tunnel'. Deal? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 02-04-2004, 01:47 AM
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Default Re: By the way, Homer Jay...

speaking of...
is there a list anywhere on this damn site that has the number of posts you need to move to the next status? (if that's what you call it)
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Old 02-04-2004, 02:48 AM
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Default Re: By the way, Homer Jay...

It's in the FAQ (top of page):

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>0 stranger
25 newbie
50 journeyman
100 member
200 enthusiast
400 addict
700 old hand
1200 veteran
1600 Pooh-Bah
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Soon you will be an enthusiast! Woohoo!

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Old 02-04-2004, 01:48 PM
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Default Blatent Post Padding.....#200!!!! Whoo hoo!!! n/m

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Old 02-05-2004, 07:11 AM
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Default Re: Maximum number of outs in holdem

</font><blockquote><font class="small">En réponse à:</font><hr />
...how many outs you possibly can have to improve a hand

If by "improve a hand" you include outs to a chop, then you can have every card in the deck.

Say you have A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and your opponent has A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

How many outs do you have if the board is A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]?

[/ QUOTE ]
Nice. Nobody thought of this when the question was posed two years ago:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...p;Number=73689

(I believe there's also an r.g.p thread on this point from late 2001 or early 2002.)

By the way, I'm also curious about how Homer eliminated the backslash-apostrophe from his designation.
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