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Old 01-06-2004, 07:17 PM
Saborion Saborion is offline
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1/2. Loose passive. 10-handed.

I`m dealt A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in MP3.
EP3 limp, MP2 limp, I raise, CO cold-call, button cold-call, BB call, EP3 call, MP2 call.
6 to the flop.

[9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] ~6 BB.
Checked to me, I bet, all but BB call.
5 to the turn.

9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] 8 BB.
Checked to me, I bet, CO call, button raise, EP3 call, MP2 call, I call.
5 to the river.

Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] 17 BB.
Checked to button that bet. It`s folded to me, what do I do?
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Old 01-06-2004, 08:18 PM
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Why not Raise the Turn? the 9 isnt that bad unless he have 1 and if he do, he will most likely 3bet which will make river alot easier for u...
On river u r prolly done...Since all he needs is a Q,9 or a spade...but since pot is so large and so much weird stuff happens at that limit i would prolly just call
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Old 01-06-2004, 08:29 PM
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Default Re: AA hand

Fold the river. I see aces lose this way so many times it's not even funny.

It would be shockingly rare for the button to NOT turn over a Q or a 9.
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Old 01-06-2004, 08:41 PM
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Default Re: AA hand

Man that did get ugly.
Preflop fine, you raised, got called, perfect.

Flop, nothing fancy bet it out. So far so good.

Turn: Buttone raises you, I more often than not three bet him here to really see how much the 9 helped him. It makes my river play alot easier. If capped, I check call the river against typical opposition. (Very few people will cap a flush draw in that spot, nor will they cap AQ.)

You can make a case for folding to the cap, but the pot is too big and you only have to be wrong 1 in 15 or so to be mathematically incorrect. (Like that MajorKong?) Likewise on the river.

If they don't cap the turn , I bet the river.
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Old 01-06-2004, 08:52 PM
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You bet the river in this hand? With the flush possibility and the boat, in case someone had the Q?

I sure am sorry I didn`t 3-bet the turn, maybe then things would`ve turned out differently. Will I ever learn this game I wonder...

No one called buttons bet on the river, but he showed us his hole cards. I suppose he was all excited. He flipped over pocket 6's.
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Old 01-06-2004, 09:00 PM
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3 PAIRS !!! O_o
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Old 01-06-2004, 09:03 PM
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Default Re: AA hand

The pot is big enough for you to call. This would be true for any position but it is doubly true for the button who will attempt more steals.
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Old 01-06-2004, 09:17 PM
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If he doesn't cap, I bet the river. Awful hard for him to call with those 6's now isn't it???
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Old 01-06-2004, 09:18 PM
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Turn: Buttone raises you, I more often than not three bet him here to really see how much the 9 helped him. It makes my river play alot easier. If capped, I check call the river against typical opposition. (Very few people will cap a flush draw in that spot, nor will they cap AQ.)

I don't understand why you'd three-bet the turn since you plan to ignore the information a cap gives you and call it down anyway. If you aren't confident enough to fold to a cap, then you shouldn't three-bet. You should just call and check-call the river.

-- Homer
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Old 01-07-2004, 02:14 AM
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I think 3-betting is wrong... and part of the reason is that you cannot fold to a 4-bet. At that point, the pot is so gigantically huge, you are basically getting odds to call for your two outter alone.
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