weak tight or just right?

[mike l.]

i have AhJh in the sb in a great 20-40 game. there are 5 limpers and i flat call. the bb checks. 7 of us.

the flop is As6s5c. i check, it's checked around to the button who is a loose and aggressive player. he bets, i checkraise, it's folded back around to the button and he thinks and calls. i bet the turn dark.

comments?

[Diplomat]

Hrrm. You are thinking weak/tight pre-flop?

Well, I'd raise pre-flop. I think the string attached to pokerbabe's latest hand sufficiently illustrates why. Calling is better than folding I guess.

The flop sounds about right.

The dark bet does not exactly sound weak/tight.

-Diplomat

[Clarkmeister]

I won't waste my breath about the preflop play. You know my opinion.

You played the flop and turn fine.

[PokerBabe(aka)]

mike--- Careful...., it's heresy to limp preflop with any big suited ace and doing so will have you relegated to the "Girly Galaxy". I think you played the hand fine, but exactly why do you bet in the dark? Do you find that people tend to fold or call when you do this?.

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[mike l.]

i know about preflop. call me girly but i just cant stand investing an extra $30 when i know i need to flop just right and still survive 6 players out of position. plus any one of these limpers is perfectly capable of limping for no good reason w/ AK, AQ, AA-JJ, etc.

i felt like the flop may have been weak tight. do i really want to checkraise and try to clear everyone out on this flop? my sense is that better players (meaning not necessarily any of you) try to build a pot here w/ pair of aces strong kicker.

[PokerBabe(aka)]

I am not a great fan of multiway pots when I only have one pair. I like your play and I can't imagine why you question yourself here.

Babe :heart

[astroglide]

i would have raised preflop, but assuming i didn't, i wouldn't bet the turn dark. whatever slim chance there was of a flush draw raising you on an unimproved turn is reduced to 0, and you're much more likely to force out a non-ace pair with it.

[Diplomat]

Yeah, I figured you might have been asking something like that. I'd prefer to cut down the field when there are six opponents. With less I might try to squeeze a few more bets in, but here I'm just trying to win the pot.

-Diplomat

[mike l.]

the button would simply never not 3 bet a flush draw or hand that had me beat already on that flop. in other words he probably had a naked pair of 6s or a gutshot draw. or nothing. and yes he would sometimes call my flop checkraise w/ nothing. so maybe i shouldnt have bet the turn and give him some rope instead?

[mikelow]

I don't know how a checkraise and a dark turn bet can be weak-tight. I see you're doing a lot of dark betting.

I rarely bet dark, but is my game missing this weapon?