How's my play with QJo?

[Henke]

Hi all!
This is my first post, so please be patient [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I know QJo is a problem hand, but could you please give me some input to my play? (I've included spoiler/opponents hands at the end of the post). Btw, thanks Slavic for the hand decoder!

Party Poker 0.50/1 (9 handed)
Hero has J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and is BB

EP1 limps, MP1 limps, MP2 limps, Button folds, Hero limps, UTG checks

Flop(5 SB): T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero bets, UTG folds, EP1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds

Turn(6 BB): 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Hero checks, EP1 checks, MP1 checks

River(6 BB): Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero bets, EP1 raises, MP1 3-bets, Hero folds, EP1 calls

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Hand 2:
Party Poker 0.50/1 (10 handed)
Hero has Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and is SB

UTG limps, EP2 limps, MP2 raises, Button folds, Hero calls, BB folds, UTG calls, EP2 calls

Flop(9 SB): J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Hero checks, UTG checks, EP2 checks, MP2 bets, Hero raises, UTG folds, EP2 folds, MP2 calls

Turn(11 BB): Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero bets, MP2 raises, Hero 3-bets, MP2 caps, Hero calls

River(19 BB): 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls


====== SPOILER =======
1 EP1 straight K high, MP1 straight A high
2 MP2 holds AA for trips.

[Festus22]

Hand 1: I don't like leading out on the river. Just too big a chance that a chase-with-an-ace opponent just caught his broadway. Check/calling might be OK if it's one bet back to you but even then I don't think you're dragging this too often.

Hand 2: Fold PF. Out of position against the field after a raise with QJo - not a pleasant scenario.

[lil']

Hand 1 - I think you could bet the turn here. Your opponents have not given any indication they have anything, and you have 10 outs to improve. You also don't want to give a free card to a gutshot draw.

The river card is helping you, but it probably helped someone else more, since the gutshot just came through.

Hand 2 - Easy fold pre-flop. You have an excellent chance of making second best hand in that spot. Your hand is likely dominated.

[Joe Tall]

Hand#1

I'm confused to what the action is...did UTG post or something? How did you 'call' in the BB? You checked your option correct?

Hand#2
Fold preflop.

Welcome to the forum,
Joe Tall

[Henke]

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Hand#1

I'm confused to what the action is...did UTG post or something? How did you 'call' in the BB? You checked your option correct?


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Very observant of you! Think there might be a small bug in the Slavic hand decoder. I'm supposed to be on SB, not BB... Will look through the output better next time.

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Welcome to the forum

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Thank you!

[Henke]

Thank you all for your fast answers! I won't make the mistake of calling with QJo from BB again [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
However, as a follow up question, if the raiser is a loose raiser, would this advice change? (E.g. all fold to button, who raises).

Thanks,
Henke

[Joe Tall]

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if the raiser is a loose raiser, would this advice change? (E.g. all fold to button, who raises).

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If you suspect a steal w/any-2, I'd 3-bet. Just remember, QJo is cheese and it's moldy-cheese out of position.

Peace,
JT

[lil']

I won't make the mistake of calling with QJo from BB again
Were you in the SB or the BB? This thread is all messed up...

It's a worse call from the SB, but either way it's a fold most of the time.

[Henke]

Should have been SB, sorry... [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

[eh923]

What's this mystery hand decoder that you've mentioned? Does it parse a hand history into a more readable format? If so, I'd love to have it too!