PLO hand at party 1/2 table

[Tuco]

Here is the hand:

***** Hand History for Game 251318917 *****
0/0 OmahaHiGameTable (PL) - Fri Nov 21 17:53:50 EST 2003
Table Card Room Table 2957 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: Kape1 ( $231.95)
Seat 2: Pumpy ( $74)
Seat 3: driekusjan ( $95)
Seat 4: x22thumbs ( $100)
Seat 5: john17 ( $24)
Seat 7: Mostovoi ( $96)
Seat 8: Iamaction ( $160.05)
Seat 9: bobsacamano ( $165.60)
Seat 10: CALHEAT ( $65.45)
Mostovoi posts small blind (1)
Iamaction posts big blind (2)
x22thumbs posts big blind + dead (3)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to bobsacamano [ 9s, Th, Jh, Qs ]
bobsacamano calls (2)
CALHEAT calls (2)
Kape1 calls (2)
Pumpy calls (2)
driekusjan calls (2)
x22thumbs checks.
john17 raises (19) to 19
Mostovoi calls (18)
Iamaction folds.
bobsacamano calls (17)
CALHEAT folds.
Kape1 calls (17)
Pumpy calls (17)
driekusjan calls (17)
x22thumbs calls (17)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Jd, 7c, 9h ]
Mostovoi checks.
bobsacamano bets (135)
Kape1 folds.
Pumpy folds.
driekusjan folds.
x22thumbs folds.
john17 calls (5)
john17 calls all-In.
Mostovoi folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 3c ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 8h ]
Creating Main Pot with $145 with john17
** Summary **
Main Pot: $145 | Side Pot 1: $130 | Rake: $3
Board: [ Jd 7c 9h 3c 8h ]
Kape1 balance $212.95, lost $19 (folded)
Pumpy balance $55, lost $19 (folded)
driekusjan balance $76, lost $19 (folded)
x22thumbs balance $80, lost $20 (folded)
john17 balance $0, lost $24 [ As Tc Ac 8s ] [ a straight, seven to jack -- Jd,Tc,9h,8s,7c ]
Mostovoi balance $77, lost $19 (folded)
Iamaction balance $158.05, lost $2 (folded)
bobsacamano balance $286.60, bet $154, collected $275, net +$121 [ 9s Th Jh Qs ] [ a straight, eight to queen -- Qs,Jd,Th,9h,8h ]
CALHEAT balance $63.45, lost $2 (folded)

Preflop I limped when i normally would raise with this hand because the 1 seat was making it 10 to go every hand. I planned on re-raising him and take it from there. For the first time, he limped. Other guy raised and now I want some volume with the hand and try to flop big.

Result not really important, I was really looking to see if I value this hand correctly.

Comments?

Tuco.

[crockpot]

pre-flop: nice hand! i'd personally rather raise myself so the pot doesn't get too big preflop. even though you have a great hand that will hit a lot of nice flops, it plays better when there is still plenty or money to be bet. thus i think you made the right play by flat calling the raise, even though you probably would have gotten a decent EV by pushing in.

your best flop play depends on the caliber of the opposition. against loonies, go ahead and pot it hoping that a hand like bottom two pair or just the QT will call. against opponents who are more likely to call a smaller bet, i would consider betting half the pot or so, given that an ace and a 7 are the only turn cards that really hurt your hand badly.

[Acesover8s]

Played perfect at that table. Normally raise with this hand to clean out your flush draws.

[n1stunnor]

Only problem with that,especially on Party,is that most players there will gladly call a raise with any suited ace.Which is what you want most of the time,but sometimes it will bite you in the ass.Like when you flop the nut str8 with a redraw to a flush only to have it cracked by the dude that called you down the whole way with AXsXX.

Better to win a small pot than lose a big 1!

[Acesover8s]

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Only problem with that,especially on Party,is that most players there will gladly call a raise with any suited ace.Which is what you want most of the time,but sometimes it will bite you in the ass.Like when you flop the nut str8 with a redraw to a flush only to have it cracked by the dude that called you down the whole way with AXsXX.

Better to win a small pot than lose a big 1!



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Exactly right which is why i said :

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Played perfect at that table . Normally raise with this hand to clean out your flush draws.

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Meaning that in the party game, while I would still probably raise with this hand, its probably not a good play, because you want as much room to manuever your chips after the flop with this hand. In the stars game, my original argument about cleaning out your flush draws holds true.

But, of course, you know all this.