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The dreaded QJo
Again, pretty typical party 1/2 table.
Party Poker 1/2 (10 handed) Rico has Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and is SB EP1 limps, EP2 limps, MP2 limps, MP3(poster) checks, CO(poster) checks, Button folds, Rico limps, BB checks Flop(7 SB): J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Rico checks, BB checks, EP1 checks, EP2 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets, CO calls, Rico raises, BB 3-bets, EP1 folds, EP2 caps, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, Rico calls, BB calls Turn(12 1/2 BB): 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Rico checks, BB checks, EP2 bets, MP2 calls, Rico calls, BB calls River(16 1/2 BB): 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Rico checks, BB bets, EP2 raises, MP2 calls, Rico folds, BB calls Does anyone play this one differently (like folding the flop when it comes back to me capped?) --Rico |
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Re: The dreaded QJo
Your chances of having the best hand combined with your chances of improving to a full house make this an easy flop call IMO.
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Re: The dreaded QJo
I think you played it just fine.
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Re: The dreaded QJo
My thoughts.
I would have definately called it down. These limits you just never know. With no bet before him on the Turn EP2 could have anything. I might have bet out on the Turn and saw what he did. Depends on his past hands. Jim |
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Re: The dreaded QJo
On a 2-flush and 3-straight board you are much better off betting out than trying to check-raise this flop.
Your 2-pair is extremely vulnerable and could be beaten on this flop. Welcome to the forum, Joe Tall |
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Re: The dreaded QJo
Hey Joe:
quote: On a 2-flush and 3-straight board you are much better off betting out than trying to check-raise this flop. Could you help me understand this better. Should I bet out so that in the likely (with this board and this field) event that I am raised I can 3-bet? When I checked with the intention of raising, I did so b/c I thought it unlikely to be checked around with this board, and if the bet came from late position I could face much of the field with 2-bets. I know my 2-pair is very vulnerable with this board. Thanks for the input [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. --Rico |
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Re: The dreaded QJo
Hey Jim:
I would have called it down on the river if the 3rd heart had not fallen. I was pretty confident that at least one of them was on a heart draw. --Rico |
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Re: The dreaded QJo
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Should I bet out so that in the likely (with this board and this field) event that I am raised I can 3-bet? [/ QUOTE ] You bet out because you have a good hand but have a chance to be behind. You bet out for information. If you are raised, and feel as if you need more information then you can 3-bet. In addition, if your hand is good, you can trap the middle players for 3-bets. Peace, JT |
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Re: The dreaded QJo
Rico, I would have check rasied also for exactly the reasons you gave. Check raising good but vulnerable hands on the flop from EP in loose games is a very useful play.
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Re: The dreaded QJo
Joe,
Although I usually bet out and hope to 3 bet, I think JTG is right about check-raising this one. Wouldn't it be nice to give someone with a 10 or J or weak Q a reason to fold? If you bet right out, they can call and have odds or near proper odds to draw to a five outer. Those on flush or straight draws will be hanging in there regardless. |
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