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#1
11-13-2003, 10:05 PM
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Is this an auto-fold?????
Party .50/1.00 table, I'm in MP with pocket jacks
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, I raise, MP3 folds, CO calls, button 3-bets, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls, MP1 calls, I call, CO calls. FLOP: K83 Checked to me, I bet, folded to button, who raises, folded back to me...... Is this an auto-fold situation? 
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#3
11-13-2003, 10:33 PM
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Re: Is this an auto-fold?????
Before the rake, you're getting 19.5:1 on your call. (Sorry, I'm not familiar with the rake at .5/1) You're a 22.5:1 dog to hit your set on the turn. That means you can call if you think you'll be able to make 1.5 BB's from your opponent if you hit your 2-outer. Since you undoubtedly will, you call. I think your implied odds here are 3 BB's, so you could've called the flop raise getting as little as 16.5:1 if you were headsup. You would want more, though, for the times your opponent has KK, and because there are times that you'll hit on the turn, and he'll hit his AA or QQ on the river. But there's also the chance that you're in the lead and your opponent will check through on the turn (although this is very, very small). I'd estimate you'd need about 18:1 to make this call in this spot. If that's what you're getting after the drop, then call. If not, then fold.
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#7
11-13-2003, 10:44 PM
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Re: Is this an auto-fold?????
I'm not sure if you're being serious or not... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] If you didn't understand my post for real, then let me know and I'll try again.
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#8
11-13-2003, 10:46 PM
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Re: Is this an auto-fold?????
I understood it....... just being a little funny....... When I first started here, you gave me an answer like that, and I swear I had to read the reply at least 8 times to get it.
Only had to read this one twice..... [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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