final word on racism

brad · #1 11-01-2003, 10:19 PM

god made all people and when we place one race above another we're judging him, not them.

heard that on alex jones show a guest said it (talking about satanic/pagan origins of modern day rituals like halloween, easter, xmas, etc.) . just thought it was cool.

Rushmore · #2 11-01-2003, 10:30 PM

So what? Is God exempt from being judged?

I'm just asking, but if God makes something evil, should he not be held accountable?

And...hasn't He? And...shouldn't He be?

brad · #3 11-01-2003, 10:47 PM

by definition god or gods are above (human)morality.

Wake up CALL · #4 11-02-2003, 09:19 PM

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This one went over my head brad. Which definition is this?

Cyrus · #5 11-03-2003, 03:57 AM

"By definition god or gods are above (human) morality."

Is it possible for a human-made toaster to be above human morality? A god is a human construct and therefore, by definition, subject to "human morality".

For more on the facinating (not really..) issue of god and man, one could do a lot worse than read up this fine American's quotes.

MMMMMM · #6 11-03-2003, 04:43 AM

"Is it possible for a human-made toaster to be above human morality? A god is a human construct and therefore, by definition, subject to "human morality"."

A god is a human construct--OK--but does that mean all gods are human constructs?

ACPlayer · #7 11-03-2003, 09:32 AM

God is actually a human hypothesis rather than a construct, so, if one exists, it may be above human morality.

A better statement may be-- morality is a human construct does it even apply to God.

brad · #8 11-03-2003, 09:41 AM

are you familiar with the concept of god being 'outside of time' ?

Rushmore · #9 11-03-2003, 11:12 AM

Of course, every possible and impossible attribute and characteristic has been ascribed to "God." The notion that He exists outside of the confines of temporality is nothing all that remarkable or interesting.

Ontological arguments aside (which are generally more scientific, as in the simple act of proving God by defining Him as "greatest," or "Unmoved Mover," or some other superlative), there is nothing credible on the face of the planet that would infer or describe attributes of "God."

Thus, the apparently-intended mystery goes on.

Personally, I choose the "By-Design" rationalization for god, as in, "It's just all too perfect, someone or something must have had something to do with it," etc. etc.

Yes, I know you'll have a problem with the word "rationalization."

Anyway, who defines the rules for how we view this mysterious God? God Himself has been fairly vague about it, and anyone with any common sense is at least a little bit misanthropic, so...

Well, you get the point.

Wake up CALL · #10 11-03-2003, 01:46 PM

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No, of course since I find the concept of a "God" amusing at best I do not know all he/she/it's characteristics. Is being a God like a comic book character? If so I suppose he/she/it can have any characteristics you choose to bestow. If that is the case I now understand your human morality statement.