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View Poll Results: Which of these hands are you most likely to play like that?
Q,x 0 0%
Hearts/straight draw 3 14.29%
Set 15 71.43%
Q9(!?) top two 1 4.76%
Underpair 0 0%
Overpair 1 4.76%
Nothing 1 4.76%
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Old 11-01-2003, 08:42 PM
1800GAMBLER 1800GAMBLER is offline
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Default Opinions on overbets..

10/20 $2000 buy in NL game. Player has just sat, so my guess he has no reads on any of the players.

Player in question limps UTG, highest stack of $4k makes it $100 to go, everyone folds UTG limper calls.

even though this is high stakes i'd be surprised if the player in question has different UTG limping standards as compared to other positions

Flop (Pot: $230):

9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

UTG checks, other player bets $220, UTG checkraises for $1500.



Any other comments you have about these massive checkraises or massive bets on the flop and preflop.
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Old 11-01-2003, 08:55 PM
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Old 11-02-2003, 01:29 PM
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Default Re: Opinions on overbets..

If I did that, I'd probably be either pissed or have one of:
hJ10 - 1
hA5/65 - 2
Set - 6

So a set is most likely for me.
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Old 11-02-2003, 04:03 PM
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Default Re: Opinions on overbets..

I'm surprised at how many players are crediting this massive checkraise as a made hand, i've never saw anything showdown in these situations, but it's an awful way to try and get paid off with a hand which pushes me more towards saying these players have draws/nothing.
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Old 11-02-2003, 05:35 PM
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Default Re: Opinions on overbets..

so you're more inclined to think the guy has nothing, since he put so much money in? good theory, try to prove it by calling next time you're in such a situation, and be sure to tell us what happened.
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Old 11-02-2003, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: Opinions on overbets..

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the key about this hand, is if you're humberto, there's no way you can call or raise, you must fold.. think about it. unless you have a great read that scotty is bluffing with garbage, then you go all in


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Old 11-03-2003, 06:13 AM
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Default Re: Opinions on overbets..

I've seen someone reraise from $100 to $400 on these tables and push all in on a lowish 2 spade flop, get called by AA and make his flush with 4s5s... just over $4k pot... nothing on the flop but a draw

The guy with AA just wrote "sick" and rebought, I get the impression it doesn't happen that often but there are some serious gambling scandinavians on there...


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Old 11-03-2003, 11:22 AM
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Default Re: Opinions on overbets..

need i cut and paste my original question, or were you going to answer it?
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Old 11-03-2003, 05:32 PM
Al_Capone_Junior Al_Capone_Junior is offline
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Default Re: Opinions on overbets..

even the biggest moron in the world will usually not put that much $$ in heads up with a set. He wants the other guy out. I vote for Qx or Qxs, but who really knows as the average idiot will play nearly anything.

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Old 11-03-2003, 05:35 PM
Al_Capone_Junior Al_Capone_Junior is offline
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Default Re: Opinions on overbets..

you could play a draw like that I suppose, but I generally don't against a pre-flop raiser. However the most likely hand to play that way in my book would be top two, a vulnerable hand that can lose easily, but one that still beats things he'd likely call with like AA or KK or AKh.

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