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| The table with Redhotman |
   
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16 | 84.21% |
| The table with KurnsonofMogh |
  
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3 | 15.79% |
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10-19-2003, 05:04 PM
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I disagree with Mason and David....
In several of the 2+2 books, it is said that as long as you are playing correctly and making positive EV plays you are winning money, even if you lose the hand.
This is completely false. There is no correlation from one hand to the next. If I flip a coin and it lands on heads, it doesn't mean that the next coin is more likely to land on tails. If you make more positive EV plays than negative EV plays you have a better CHANCE of winning than losing, however when you lose, you are certainly NOT winning. 
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10-19-2003, 05:48 PM
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Re: I disagree with Mason and David....
Generally when they talk about this, they use the phrase "in the long run".
They are also talking about mindset. You should think "I'm making money because I'm making the correct +EV plays". You shouldn't think that "I only make money when I catch good cards".
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#3
10-19-2003, 05:53 PM
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Re: I disagree with Mason and David....
If you make more positive EV plays than negative EV plays you have a better CHANCE of winning than losing, however when you lose, you are certainly NOT winning.
Redhot, I think you need to reread Theory of Poker for a better understanding of what the esteemed authors have written. If you bet top pair top kicker, and someone flat calls with two pair or a set, you have gained. I will leave you to your own devices to figure out why.
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#4
10-19-2003, 06:17 PM
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Re: I disagree with Mason and David....
If I flip a coin and it lands on heads, it doesn't mean that the next coin is more likely to land on tails.
That's not what they're saying. If you bet money on heads and get 6-5 odds and the coin comes up tails, you still were correct to make the bet, and should not shy away from making that same play again even though there's no guarantee that any particular flip will come up heads, (assuming a fair coin, of course).
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10-19-2003, 07:09 PM
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Re: I disagree with Mason and David....
They are assuming that every poker hand you play while on earth is part of one long session, this is incorrect.
Every night when you stop playing you have won or lost what you have won or lost. Once again, I understand the FTOP and the "point" they are trying to make, I just disagree with life being one long poker session.
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10-19-2003, 07:24 PM
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Re: I disagree with Mason and David....
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I think you need to reread Theory of Poker for a better understanding of what the esteemed authors have written. If you bet top pair top kicker, and someone flat calls with two pair or a set, you have gained. I will leave you to your own devices to figure out why. [/ QUOTE ] Exactly!!!
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#10
10-19-2003, 07:53 PM
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Re: I disagree with Mason and David....
"They are assuming that every poker hand you play while on earth is part of one long session, this is incorrect.
Every night when you stop playing you have won or lost what you have won or lost. " The idea is that one session is insignificant in the long run of many thousands of hours of play. Basically you're saying what they say, in the short run variance dominates your results but in the long run (lots of hours) variance is insignificant. That's easily proven.
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