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Old 10-17-2003, 12:15 AM
1800GAMBLER 1800GAMBLER is offline
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Default How to lose a bankroll.

First time ever i went bust. It's just a stage, not even a big stage of poker for me because i semi-cleared the account anyhow. $2.5/$5 $500 buy in with after a bad session of having 6 buy ins i'm at 3.

After i run over the table for a while i get JJ, my first legit raising hand.

3 limpers and i raise to 6 times the blinds, $30, coldcaller behind rest fold.

Flop:

3 8 6r

I bet the pot, he calls.

Turn: A

I pot bet. He calls.

River: 9

I go all in, he calls.

He shows A2o, i rebuy, complainning, which i don't normally.


Wayhey 2 hands later JJ! I raise 5 blinds. He coldcalls again.

Flop:

9 3 5r

I pot bet. Calls.

Turn:

K.

I pot bet, calls.

River:

A.

I check and call his min. bet and he shows A7s.

I semi-buy for half the buy in just on a mild tilt laughing this time.

Right after get 98s and raise 8blinds, he calls again.

Flop:

6 9 7r

I push in. He calls.

Turn:

8.

River:

6.

He shows A6s. I don't rebuy, i laugh, bitch, post, sleep.

Stories? 'I told you' sos?
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Old 10-17-2003, 05:34 AM
Guy McSucker Guy McSucker is offline
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Default Re: How to lose a bankroll.

Jay,

Those are beats, sure enough. I feel for you. And I am not going to say "I told you so" because I didn't.

I will say this. You are clearly a very aggressive player, and you have been very successful with this strategy. But, when you're super-aggressive, sometimes people are going to call you down with any pair, and sometimes they are going to outdraw you. For instance, the 98 hand: you have posted several hands where you played AK just the same way, so you can see why this guy might call... If you have AK he's got you drawing to three outs after the flop here.

Also, when you're losing heavily, people begin to expect to beat you. Time to reign in the betting when you don't really have them locked up.

You'll be back, I have no doubt.

Guy.

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Old 10-17-2003, 08:52 AM
1800GAMBLER 1800GAMBLER is offline
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Default Re: How to lose a bankroll.

Yeah, beats are beats. I'll be back on that account tonight, i'll reserve one of my cash ins. I just found those calls of his amazing. That's some pretty bad play for someone at those stakes.
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Old 10-17-2003, 10:01 AM
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Default Re: How to lose a bankroll.

weird.. the A hits, you bet the pot... he calls.... and then you go all in on the river?
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Old 10-17-2003, 10:46 AM
Greg (FossilMan) Greg (FossilMan) is offline
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Default Re: How to lose a bankroll.

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That's some pretty bad play for someone at those stakes.

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LOL! You ain't seen nothin' yet.

Wait until you play 10-25 blind PLO with a bunch of European gamblers.

Later, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)
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Old 10-17-2003, 12:04 PM
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Default Re: How to lose a bankroll.

what about AA vs KK ???

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Old 10-17-2003, 12:16 PM
1800GAMBLER 1800GAMBLER is offline
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Default Re: How to lose a bankroll.

You check to that ace!? O_O

edit: I should give more of a reply than that.

His calling a bet there doesn't change anything, he should know that i haven't played my hand like an ace, so i don't improve with that turn card, so his hand from the flop doesn't need to change. Standards don't change here.

The next hand is an example of it.

Nor does the river card change anything other than a 57 (doubtful) draw being completed. Or the more likely, but still unlikely 79 9T giving him a overpair (to the flop).

In short, there ratio of an unknown player calling hands on the flop which i beat compared to the ratio of hands in which he has an ace in so hugely in my favour.
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Old 10-17-2003, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: How to lose a bankroll.

Yeah, i had a deep stack meet a deep stack in 1/2 when i had KK only to see some annoying chatter to have AA. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 10-17-2003, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: How to lose a bankroll.

The problem's not betting the turn, it's going all-in on the river after you've been called.
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Old 10-17-2003, 12:21 PM
Guy McSucker Guy McSucker is offline
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Default Re: How to lose a bankroll.

I am not sure how big Jay's stack was at that point. He says "I'm at 3" but I don't know if he means $300 or 3 buyins, i.e. $1500.

If it's $300 then he only had a few bucks left on the river.

Guy.
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