MUCKING AA PREFLOP???!!!

GuyOnTilt · #1 09-04-2003, 01:31 AM

I can't believe it! I actually did it!

This post is not a joke. This actually did take place tonight.

Playing my usual loose/passive 6/12 game live earlier tonight. UTG is a good player, MP1 is a very good player, and MP2 is a pretty solid player as well. I've been at the table for maybe 20 minutes and am on my A-game so far when I get dealt A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in the CO. UTG raises, UTG+1 3-bets, EP cold-calls, MP1 cold-calls, MP2 caps, LMP calls!!! I sit there shaking my head and smiling as I muck my hand. As my cards are still spinning in the air I tell the table, "I'd better see some quality hands shown down on this one."

Am I nuts?!!! Feel free to rip me a new one, but beware! I am prepared to defend myself!

JTG51 · #2 09-04-2003, 01:35 AM

This is a horrendously bad fold. At least you can say you made the worst possible play in hold'em.

onegymrat · #3 09-04-2003, 01:36 AM

Excuse me, Mr. Guy, if you're not going to play those two cards, mind if I give it a go?

Ulysses · #4 09-04-2003, 01:37 AM

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I've been at the table for maybe 20 minutes and am on my A-game so far

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It'll be tough to beat the game if you can only keep up your A-game for 20 minutes. Especially if you jump straight to your Z-game.

NRS · #5 09-04-2003, 01:40 AM

Dude, no offense, but there's no way you should ever do that. Ever.

JTG51 · #6 09-04-2003, 01:41 AM

Especially if you jump straight to your Z-game.

Yeah, no kidding. Playing Zee's game is good, playing your Z-game is bad.

Max Weinberg · #7 09-04-2003, 02:00 AM

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I can't believe it! I actually did it!

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I wouldn't sound so proud of that if I were you.

GuyOnTilt · #8 09-04-2003, 02:01 AM

Alright, here's what was going through my mind:

At first, I was happy to see the early raising and reraising, but then as everybody kept raising and coldcalling, I started to think...

#1) This pot is going to be absolutely HUGE and multi-way to the extreme!!! This leads to two things. First, nobody's folding the flop and most people aren't folding the turn, as there's going to be drawing odds to virtually all hands on the flop. Second, my hand is not going to win unimproved against this many opponents, and definitely not with this many opponents seeing the river card.

#2) Since there's so many people raising and cold-calling, I'm going to consider my outs to a set dead. This is even more true with the solid players raising and cold-calling.

#3) Therefore, I'm likely drawing to a one-card straight or one-card flush to take this pot.

So I fold.

slider77 · #9 09-04-2003, 02:09 AM

Wow, I knew "guys on tilts" made dumb plays, but I thought it was playing stuff they no way should play - not the opposite.

Turn in your poker chips buddy.

NRS · #10 09-04-2003, 02:10 AM

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#2) Since there's so many people raising and cold-calling, I'm going to consider my outs to a set dead. This is even more true with the solid players raising and cold-calling.

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Okay, but its not just the aces are going to be eaten up: Ks and Qs are going to be in short supply, too. The way that you win this pot is if something completely innocuous comes on the board, and that's more likely than you'd think given the preflop action.

You've at least got to see the flop. If it comes up K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], and you're bet into, that's when you fold.