KK with coordinated flop

[Miah]

Online 3-6:

I'm dealt K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in the small blind

2 EP's callers, 1 mp caller, I raise it to $6, BB and limpers call.

5 see flop for 2 bets a peice:

Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Not the best of flops but there's still a good chance I'm ahead so I bet out, BB calls, EP makes it $6 and its folded to me. I think for a sec and decide there's a bunch of hands he could be raising on here that I'm beating so I decide to make it $9. BB folds and EP calls, its heads up.

Turn: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I bet and get called.

River: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I check hoping to catch a bluff, he bets and I call.

Results to follow this evening.

[Vehn]

River: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I check hoping to catch a bluff, he bets and I call.

^^^ YM "I check hoping he'll bet so I can checkraise and win more money". HTH.

[Homer]

I check hoping to catch a bluff, he bets and I call.

Why do you think he must be on a PURE draw? I could see him having QJ, QT, Q9, T9, JT, J9, Q8, T8, 98, KT, KQ, K9, all of which you beat, and all of which will call a river bet (assuming your opponent is a typical non-solid player) but may not bet when checked to.

Checking on the river to induce a bluff is a far better play when the board does not contain as many cards in the "playing zone". In this situation it is likely that your opponent caught a piece of the flop in addition to a draw (if he has a draw at all), something that has showdown value. In such a case it is much better to bet, since your opponent will not make a desperation bet when checked to, something he might consider doing with only a busted draw.

I'll be damned -- I had an original thought.

-- Homer

[kiddo]

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Checking on the river to induce a bluff is a far better play when the board does not contain as many cards in the "playing zone".

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Havent thought about it like this. Good point.

I would bet out on river. I think he will call you more often then he will bet behind if you check.

[lil']

This seems like a time to bet your hand for value, not indce a bluff.

[Miah]

I completely misplayed the hand on all streets except preflop. My opponent had QT for floped top two in which I proceeded to river him. I didn't put him on two pair due to his complete passiveness post-flop. Silly me, I forgot who I'm playing with sometimes.

When I was the dog I was the aggressor, when I had the best hand I was the wuss. I should have realized how much that 5 helped me and c/r and/or value bet the river.

BTW if he would have popped me on the turn I would have laid it down, I forgot to include that in my original post when commenting on the turn.

[lil']

You didn't misplay the flop or turn. Betting was correct!

[Miah]

Not according to the fundamental theorum of poker [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[Bob T.]

I think you did fine. With a coordinated board, there are a lot of draws, that might be raising for a free card or value, and anyone with top pair, would be raising to protect their hand, so I think that a three bet on the flop, is almost a mandatory play. If you don't make that raise, I would think that you played the hand poorly.

[JTG51]

Bob, are you saying you think the river play was OK? The 5 was maybe the second best card he could have hoped for (behind only a non club J). Checking and just calling the river was a big mistake.