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Old 07-28-2003, 11:52 PM
John Cole John Cole is offline
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Default DVD Review: Last Year in Marienbad

Alain Resnais film, based on Robbe-Grillet's screenplay, is a visually stunning film full of gorgeous tracking shots and great visuals. In one shot, Resnais captures a group of hotel guests standing in a garden. The people cast long shadows, but the sculpted pyramid-shaped hedges cast no shadows. (The shadows cast by the people were painted on.)

As far as the story goes, don't bother trying to figure it out. Ostensibly it's about a man who claims to have met a woman the previous year, but she has either no recollection of the meeting or selective amnesia. He tells her that they are meeting this year because she has agreed to leave her husband or lover the previous year. Again, we're not sure if any of this is true.

As the man narrates the events from the previous year, we see that some events seem to agree with his version while others don't. For example, he tells her that a mirror hangs over the fireplace in her room, but when we first see the fireplace, a painting of a winter scene hangs there. Later, the painting is replaced by a mirror.

Throughout the film, the soundtrack throbs with ominous organ music, and we hear very little in the way of diegetic sound (sound effects like heels clacking on marble floors for instance when a character walks by).

The soundtrack, the images, the story all combine to leave the viewer befuddled--but that's not necessarily a bad thing. You just have to be able to live with a little uncertainty.

However, the DVD could really use much more in the way of commentary--it has none. And the "extras" are pretty sparse. For the price, it's better to rent than buy.

John
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Old 07-29-2003, 12:25 AM
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See. Told ya. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 07-29-2003, 01:09 AM
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Default What\'s a \"John Cole movie\" ?

Could someone please explain what's a "John Cole movie"? I keep hearing this when we go out and all the others give off these knowing looks, it's frustrating.

Can anyone help ? Please cover all the range of possibilities in your definition.
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Old 07-29-2003, 01:39 AM
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Default Re: DVD Review: Last Year in Marienbad

Diegetic sound means sounds that have to do with the story, sounds that originate from something that can be seen in the picture.

Non-diegetic sound: Sound coming from outside of the picture. The source of the sound is not seen in the picture, like, for example, the shot heard in Joona Tena's "Saattajat".


I also found this great link: Everything about filmsound for the anal art-see film nut.

Through this link I found out that Worldizing is a word. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]


Thanks John, I learned something new today. Didn't know that movie sound was such a technical science, or that such a variety of concepts about sound existed for movie making.

-Zeno

PS. Is Saattajat as good as say, Slapstick.
PPS I deliberately made film sound one word, above. I'm working on sound effects in writing. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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Old 07-29-2003, 01:57 AM
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"what's a "John Cole movie"?"

A movie could be made about what is a John Cole movie and it would be a movie that John Cole would watch and enjoy and not just because it was about John Cole. And John Cole would be the narrator, protagonist, villain and savior of the movie. There would be a lot of mirrors in the movie but no smoke. Ominous organ music would make up the entire soundtrack. Does any of this make sense? I hope so because that is what a John Cole movie is. And it does depend on what your definition of is is.


I hope I made myself perfectly clear. If not, I’m sure John Cole can fill in the missing pieces. Or perhaps he can explain it best since it is about John Cole. But we may not know who the real John Cole is. Or do we? I guess we will have to wait for the movie.


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Old 07-29-2003, 03:10 AM
Mark Heide Mark Heide is offline
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Default Re: DVD Review: Last Year in Marienbad

John,

Thanks for the review. I'll put it on my list to see.

Mark
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Old 07-29-2003, 03:15 AM
Mark Heide Mark Heide is offline
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Default Re: What\'s a \"John Cole movie\" ?

Cyrus,

With a few exceptions, a John Cole movie is a movie that entertains and makes you think.

Mark
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Old 07-29-2003, 03:37 AM
Rick Nebiolo Rick Nebiolo is offline
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Default Re: DVD Review: Last Year in Marienbad

"As far as the story goes, don't bother trying to figure it out."

The sure sign of a John Cole movie [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

~ Rick
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Old 07-29-2003, 10:48 AM
John Cole John Cole is offline
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Default Re: DVD Review: Last Year in Marienbad

Zeno,

One of the great sound jokes in films is the scene in Blazing Saddles: the new sheriff rides through the desert and we hear the Count Basie Orchestra on the soundtrack (non-diegetic). As he rides a bit further, though, he encounters the Count Basie Orchestra playing in the middle of the desert (diegetic).

John
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Old 07-29-2003, 11:17 AM
John Cole John Cole is offline
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Default Re: What\'s a \"John Cole movie\" ?

Cyrus,

The term originated here with Ray Zee who implied that a "John Cole" movie is a film that might make you think about some stuff. If you note knowing looks, I'd look inward. You might be insane without quite realizing it.

John
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