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Old 12-19-2005, 07:14 PM
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Default (22) JJ in SB, how\'s my line

Ok, this table was ridiculously maniacal, I think we were about 3-4 hands in and 2 people were already out. UTG was raising most every hand preflop. UTG+1 had a beat by UTG and they were sparring in the chat.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (8 handed) converter

BB (t590)
UTG (t1980)
UTG+1 (t445)
MP1 (t865)
MP2 (t1755)
CO (t835)
Button (t745)
Hero (t785)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t100</font>, UTG+1 calls t100, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls t100, Hero calls t90, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t412.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
I push for 685, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls

Turn: (t1097.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

River: (t1097.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Final Pot: t1097.50
<font color="#009B00">Main Pot: t1097.50 (t1097.50), between UTG, UTG+1 and Hero.</font> &gt; <font color="#FFFFFF">Pot won by UTG+1 (t1097.50).</font>
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Old 12-19-2005, 07:20 PM
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Default Re: (22) JJ in SB, how\'s my line

Against maniacs, I shove this preflop and take my chances.
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Old 12-19-2005, 07:55 PM
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Yea I woulda shoved it pre-flop too without a second thought if people were raising as much as you say.
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Old 12-19-2005, 08:30 PM
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I was on the edge between calling and pushing preflop. I took my line because I figured if I just called, I would be able to easily get away from the hand when any A, K, or Q flopped while still having 685 chips to make something out of later.
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Old 12-19-2005, 08:31 PM
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Default Re: (22) JJ in SB, how\'s my line

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I was on the edge between calling and pushing preflop. I took my line because I figured if I just called, I would be able to easily get away from the hand when any A, K, or Q flopped while still having 685 chips to make something out of later.

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You don't know that an overcard hit anyone, which is one of the reason to push pre-flop so you don't outthink yourself. The other reason is to try to drive out villains holding some of those overcards.
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:20 PM
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"You don't know that an overcard hit anyone, which is one of the reason to push pre-flop so you don't outthink yourself. The other reason is to try to drive out villains holding some of those overcards."

In hind sight, pushing preflop would've been the best play. I was happy as a boy can get when they flipped their cards.

UTG: 10h10s

UTG+1: Ah10h

Oh well, cold decked, and at least the overlay from UTG still left me with 665ish chips to donk off.

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