Late action line check (22s)

puzzlemoney · #1 12-13-2005, 02:35 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100

Hero (t1300)
CO (t530)
Button (t1660)
SB (t940)
BB (t1980)
UTG (t1590)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to t350, CO calls t530 (All-In), Button raises to t780, 2 folds, Hero...

Button seemed to be a decent player.

I have AKo and it's reraised twice after me... Can I respect Button here and lay it down, or do I have to go for it?

If I push and miss, I'm out; if I fold I have an okay stack but I've created a fourth large stack. I think now it was too early to worry about the stacks I'd be creating, though.

pineapple888 · #2 12-13-2005, 02:42 PM

With all that money in the middle and discounting CO's hand since he's the shorty, I shove here.

tigerite · #3 12-13-2005, 02:58 PM

So crap that button could re-raise like that, but anyway, I'd raise less pf personally, but no way you can fold here, IMHO.

Hendricks433 · #4 12-13-2005, 03:21 PM

I think you need to shove. Theres so much money out there with shorty all in.

BAK · #5 12-13-2005, 04:28 PM

This looks like the Button is hoping you will re-raise him all-in. He is certainly not trying to isolate the CO. I would probably oblige him and push, but would expect to see AA - JJ, AK, and maybe AQ, TT, but I suspect these last are wishful thinking.

puzzlemoney · #6 12-13-2005, 04:34 PM

I have to say, I was prety surprised that nobody said, "any decent player has Queens or better here; fold."

Then I ran the numbers, and even if opponent's range is QQ+, I'm only a 2.33:1 dog (to Button). Obviously, I'm in better shape if his range includes AK.

Overall in the hand, I'm a 3:1 dog if shorty holds any ace, king, or queen and Button has QQ+. If I expand Button to include AK, then I'm nearly 2.6:1.

So this is more marginal than I thought. Am I wrong in assuming that a decent player on the button is only behaving this way with a range like {QQ+,AK}? I certainly would fold anything less against two opponents.

Would I be wrong to fold JJ in Button's position (against, say, one random 22'er and one reasonable 22'er)?