Optimal Bet Size?

Maulik · #1 12-11-2005, 04:39 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero (t880)
UTG (t1520)
UTG+1 (t575)
MP1 (t550)
MP2 (t940)
CO (t565)
Button (t2330)
SB (t640)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
5 folds, Button calls t50, SB completes, Hero raises to t200, Button calls t150, SB calls t150.

Flop: (t600) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)

Turn: (t600) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)

River: (t600) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)

Final Pot: t600

KingDan · #2 12-11-2005, 04:42 PM

If your question is what to do on the flop I generally bet all of it

11t · #3 12-11-2005, 04:44 PM

Do yourself a favor and raise 250 preflop and just push any none ace flop.

Push this flop.

#4 12-11-2005, 04:59 PM

i agree with the responses in general (although maybe not the execution). not too many good cards in SNG. just try to suck out as much cash as you. so bet as much as you think will get called (either on flop or F/T), but given SNG escalating blinds, i wouldn't worry at all that you're beaten (if you are, and assumes no ace on flop, then just join another SNG)

i too wonder about bet size. interesting subject as you want to get as much money from your opponent as possible without opening yourself up to the call or reraise being a "3 of a kind"

a technical question: when people say raise 250, does that include the 50 blind? is it "raise by" or "raise to"? i'm curious as to custom as i see that alot.

Maulik · #5 12-11-2005, 05:11 PM

I'm not concerned w/ PF, I get value for my callers. On any non-ace flop I'm committing myself for my chips sure, but I want the villain's to come along for the ride.

There aren't any transparent draws hence the "reasonable" bet not sure why it doesn't show the bet of t300.

handsome · #6 12-11-2005, 05:24 PM

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Do yourself a favor and raise 250 preflop and just push any none ace flop.

Push this flop.

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Ding ding ding.

tewall · #7 12-11-2005, 08:31 PM

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a technical question: when people say raise 250, does that include the 50 blind? is it "raise by" or "raise to"? i'm curious as to custom as i see that a lot.

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I would normally take it to mean call, and raise 250 more, but in this particular case from the context it seems clear to me it includes the 50 of the blinds, so it's a raise to 250.

johnnybeef · #8 12-11-2005, 08:32 PM

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Do yourself a favor and raise 250 preflop and just push any none ace flop.

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That is terrible.

Maulik · #9 12-11-2005, 08:36 PM

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Do yourself a favor and raise 250 preflop and just push any none ace flop.

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That is terrible.

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well beef go on and teach us.. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

ilya · #10 12-11-2005, 08:47 PM

Preflop looks fine to me, might make it 250 but whatever. I would bet 350-400 on this flop and put the rest in on any turn except an Ace; if turn is an Ace I might check/call.
Betting all of it is also reasonable I think as long as you're often doing it with hands like 88/77 & AK as well as sets & overpair.