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Old 12-05-2005, 09:04 PM
Taraz Taraz is offline
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Default $55: Big stack raises, anemic stack folds, Hero???

No idea what to do.


***** Hand History for Game 3150846972 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:18019632 Level:8 Blinds(200/400) - Monday, December 05, 20:56:24 EDT 2005
Table Table 66707 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: BurroLoco ( $690 )
Seat 4: Mapsfly_1 ( $2865)
Seat 7: Hero ($2760 )
Seat 9: ThatsTheGame ( $3685 )
Trny:18019632 Level:8
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero[ 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
ThatsTheGame raises [900].
BurroLoco folds.
Mapsfly_1 folds.
Hero???
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Old 12-05-2005, 09:05 PM
jeffraider jeffraider is offline
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Default Re: $55: Big stack raises, anemic stack folds, Hero???

Wow yucky spot! I think I'd tend towards pushing here but I don't feel too strongly about it.
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Old 12-05-2005, 09:15 PM
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Default Re: $55: Big stack raises, anemic stack folds, Hero???

I tried hard to find a reason to get involved, but I couldn't. It's too many chips to flat-call despite the good pot odds. With shorty that short, I reluctantly lay it down.
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Old 12-05-2005, 09:31 PM
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Default Re: $55: Big stack raises, anemic stack folds, Hero???

I prefer to call and push a flop that does not have more then one overcard.

Folding here is bad as everyone will see that a min raise will push u off your blind and you will get put in the same spot again later with a weaker holding.

Pushing is not bad either as u can hurt him if he loses the coin flip and may lay it down. Only problem is that he gets to see 5 cards if you get called. However even against a tight player this is a +ev
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Old 12-05-2005, 09:55 PM
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Default Re: $55: Big stack raises, anemic stack folds, Hero???

Probably call. Be aware that ThatsTheGame is a pretty good player.
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Old 12-05-2005, 10:05 PM
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Default Re: $55: Big stack raises, anemic stack folds, Hero???

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Probably call. Be aware that ThatsTheGame is a pretty good player.

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But then what's your plan, with shorty so short? The dynamics just repeat on the flop... and if you don't push, he will... so you have to push... so why not push now, or just let it go?
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Old 12-05-2005, 10:43 PM
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Default Re: $55: Big stack raises, anemic stack folds, Hero???

Haven't looked at any replies, I'm in a bit of a hurry because I have a date with drunkness. I think a key thing about this hand is that he is not a huge stack. He is not comfortable getting all-in (because he's a relatively good player... trust me) without a very strong hand. If I'm him, and I'm not, but a lot of good players are making that raise with a lot of hands. I think I might be raising there with any two. Having said that you obviously don't want to bubble. I think you have his range crushed and that he's not calling with a lot of it so I think I bomb away here. But I sweat a bit when I do it (if you're going to play I think you have to push pf).
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Old 12-05-2005, 11:39 PM
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Default Re: $55: Big stack raises, anemic stack folds, Hero???

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Folding here is bad as everyone will see that a min raise will push u off your blind and you will get put in the same spot again later with a weaker holding.


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There is a good chance that small stack is going to bust next hand. They won't really have another opportunity to minraise me out on my next BB because I won't fold anything decent if there is no small stack muddling matters.
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Old 12-06-2005, 06:36 AM
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Default Re: $55: Big stack raises, anemic stack folds, Hero???

Unless you have reason to believe that the raiser will lay down reasonable hands (QJ, 44, K9, etc.) anything but folding here is atrocious. Calling is by far your worst option IMO.

moses
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Old 12-06-2005, 06:44 AM
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Default Re: $55: Big stack raises, anemic stack folds, Hero???

If villain is a good player then let this go. It's possible that a good player pushes a huge range here but only raises to 900 with a special few...
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