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Old 11-29-2005, 07:47 PM
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Default ($33) Lvl1 JJ Did I not get max value?

Very early hand, no reads. After UTG+2 open raised, I thought about re-raising. But figured that would not be a real good play cause hands like AQ AK are prolly gonna call and a A K Q on the flop pretty much wastes the raise. So I call figuring I can get away cheap if any of the above hit.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

CO (t625)
Button (t990)
SB (t785)
BB (t800)
UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t800)
UTG+2 (t800)
Hero (t800)
MP2 (t800)
MP3 (t800)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises to t45</font>, Hero calls t45, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, BB calls t30.

Flop: (t142.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets t55</font>, Hero calls t55, BB folds.

Turn: (t252.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets t70</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t450</font>, UTG+2 folds.

Final Pot: t772.50

Was the turn re-raise too much?? I didn't want a backdoor flush to take me on the river, but did I risk too much too early? it is only Lvl1. Or should I have priced him in and gambled? Or did I make a mistake smooth calling with the BB still in...
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Old 11-29-2005, 08:00 PM
Freudian Freudian is offline
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Default Re: ($33) Lvl1 JJ Did I not get max value?

I think you did fine. He folded because a scarecard came, but you still has to raise this turn. Cest la vie.
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Old 11-29-2005, 08:03 PM
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Default Re: ($33) Lvl1 JJ Did I not get max value?

I can't see the suits on my browser. If there was a flush draw on the flop, I'd probably raise the flop. If not, calling is fine, but I still might raise.

The turn bet is either too much or too little. I think raising to 250 would be fine or maybe 300 and I also think pushing would be fine. When you push, a weaker hand is more likely to play sheriff.
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Old 11-29-2005, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: ($33) Lvl1 JJ Did I not get max value?

Two clubs on the flop, third came on the turn.
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Old 11-29-2005, 08:13 PM
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Default Re: ($33) Lvl1 JJ Did I not get max value?

I pot the flop here every time. I don't understand calling behind and then putting most of your chips in when one of the scariest cards in the deck hits and his weak lead could be anything. I think you maximized risk here rather than value.
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Old 11-29-2005, 08:22 PM
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Default Re: ($33) Lvl1 JJ Did I not get max value?

After thinking about this hand, I did come to that conclusion also. I usually play that exact way (keep the odds wrong for him to chase), cause it seems I give away too many flushes. So this time I am thinking maybe I can get some more $$ (I had him on AT-AK) by slow playing it. When that 3rd club hit, and it being a K, I figured I could Rep the flush, and if he hit his K, my set would be good. But I think I did maximize risk instead of value by getting cute.
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Old 11-29-2005, 08:32 PM
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I pot the flop here every time. I don't understand calling behind and then putting most of your chips in when one of the scariest cards in the deck hits and his weak lead could be anything. I think you maximized risk here rather than value.

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