AK and chasing, 76 flops two pair

therockofgibraltar · #1 11-26-2005, 05:04 AM

no reads. everybody seems very loose, not very agg.

HAND1:
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Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, MP calls.

Flop: (8 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, Hero checks.

Bad?

Turn: (4 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets, MP calls, Hero calls, SB folds.

River: (7 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, MP raises, Hero calls, BB folds.

I used to be scared when there was a pair on board. Nowadays I try to think "it is less likely that someone has it". I call.

Final Pot: 12 BB

HAND2:
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Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, 1 fold, Hero checks.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, MP calls, CO folds, Button calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, MP calls, Button calls.

River: (8.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, MP folds, Button folds, Hero calls.

Stupid bet here? can I fold?

Final Pot: 12.75 BB

Weatherhead03 · #2 11-26-2005, 05:12 AM

Hand 1: Bet the flop there always. That isnt a scary board for AKs with a BDFD.

Hand 2: I play the same. Could be a bluff raise. Don't fold that river unless its 2 more back to you.

imported_leader · #3 11-26-2005, 05:26 AM

Hand 1: I check these flops 4 handed frequently. I'd consider a turn fold. Calls not bad though.

Hand 2: That's prefect, IMO. I would not be folding this river. Frankly it's closer to a 3-bet. B/C is the right play though

therockofgibraltar · #4 11-26-2005, 05:35 AM

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Hand 1: I check these flops 4 handed frequently. I'd consider a turn fold. Calls not bad though.

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Yep, now when I think about it, fold might be better. I am not getting the pot odds to hit my overcards and they might not even be clean. The pot ain't that big so...

MrWookie47 · #5 11-26-2005, 05:37 AM

I'd bet the flop in hand 1, and I'd fold the turn in the small pot. Since you're overcalling, you're less likely to be ahead.

Hand 2 is solid.

Weatherhead03 · #6 11-26-2005, 05:40 AM

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I check these flops 4 handed frequently.

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What is your frequency of betting this flop do you think? Top heavy with betting or top heavy with checking it?

imported_leader · #7 11-26-2005, 05:45 AM

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I'd bet the flop in hand 1

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Could you make the argument for a bet for me? I mean are we trying to deny free cards to worst hands? I don't think were folding much here. I think we're getting cr some amount. Would it be better just to take a free card ourselves since were not folding any better hands like PP here?

imported_leader · #8 11-26-2005, 05:47 AM

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I check these flops 4 handed frequently.

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What is your frequency of betting this flop do you think? Top heavy with betting or top heavy with checking it?

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4-handed checking, 3-handed betting I think this particular one is close. But a lot of 4-handed pots you’re just chasing your money by betting.