Got lucky or good play?

Roy6 · #1 11-21-2005, 08:58 PM

LP lineup. I wonder if I should do this more.

Party Poker 3.00/6.00 Hold'em (6 handed) link

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 folds, CO calls, 1 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4.00 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets, CO calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (4.00 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, UTG calls, CO folds.

River: (7.00 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 8.00 BB.

aba20 · #2 11-21-2005, 09:00 PM

I fold the flop, very small pot and not closing the action.

B Dids · #3 11-21-2005, 09:04 PM

Raise preflop, bet from then on. AT least you're good at rivering.

Include better reads in your posts.

Stinkybeaver · #4 11-21-2005, 09:11 PM

I'm not raising this preflop, but I don't mind the flop peel and folding the turn UI. After all you have two overcards and two backdoor draws it can't be that bad.

If we attain something like 4 outs for the overs since some could be tainted and 3 outs for the draws thats 7 outs and even though it's a smallish pot theres still two betting rounds to go so theres some implied odds left inthere.

I like it.

Spicymoose · #5 11-21-2005, 09:28 PM

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Raise preflop, bet from then on.

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Before I read the replies, I was going to ask if anyone raised this preflop. I am glad to know you do. I am sure flawless_victory must. I havn't usually, but I think I will start to.

Given the way he played, do you bet the river UI? I'm guessing no vs 2 opponents. What about vs only one?

Spicymoose · #6 11-21-2005, 09:30 PM

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I fold the flop, very small pot and not closing the action.

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Flop peel is fine. You are getting 6:1, and BB usually is not raising here. You have 3 outs from your backdoors, plus another 3-5 or so from your overs. That is about 7 outs, which, including implied odds, is plenty.

ArturiusX · #7 11-21-2005, 09:54 PM

Wp.

wackjob · #8 11-21-2005, 10:14 PM

standard PF raise for me as well. i think I would rather try for a c/r on the turn knowing that a free card isn't bad.

ArturiusX · #9 11-21-2005, 10:16 PM

Umm, we're never ever getting the free card here, never folding anyone, and alwas getting called down by a pair.

Spicymoose · #10 11-21-2005, 10:17 PM

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i think I would rather try for a c/r on the turn knowing that a free card isn't bad.

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Interesting. If our flop agressor bets and the CO calls, then our check raise is most likely for value. If the CO folds, then our check raise has way more folding equity then the turn lead, not to mention having plenty of outs in case he doesn't fold.