(22) Is this too weak tight/

golfcchs · #1 11-21-2005, 03:22 AM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero (t760)
CO (t605)
Button (t590)
SB (t1665)
BB (t775)
UTG (t785)
UTG+1 (t835)
MP1 (t855)
MP2 (t1130)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG raises to t100, 7 folds.

Final Pot: t145

No read on UTG he had not done anything so far.

I really dont like this situation because If I reraise here I feel like I have to play for my whole stack, but if I call I could be only caller in pot and will not be getting odds to hit my ace or king. Is folding really bad here? What is you play?

TT_fold · #2 11-21-2005, 03:27 AM

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero (t760)
CO (t605)
Button (t590)
SB (t1665)
BB (t775)
UTG (t785)
UTG+1 (t835)
MP1 (t855)
MP2 (t1130)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG raises to t100, 7 folds.

Final Pot: t145

No read on UTG he had not done anything so far.

I really dont like this situation because If I reraise here I feel like I have to play for my whole stack, but if I call I could be only caller in pot and will not be getting odds to hit my ace or king. Is folding really bad here? What is you play?

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Pushing here is fine... I hate calling for over an eighth of your stack, and folding is too weak even against an UTG raiser. Not only could UTG be raising with a hand that you dominate (AQ, KQ, AJ), but there's a good chance that pushing will move him off of a medium pocket pair.

golfcchs · #3 11-21-2005, 03:33 AM

Do you give villain any credit for folding the first 10 or so hands?

Roman · #4 11-21-2005, 03:45 AM

YES this is wayyy too weak.

golfcchs · #5 11-21-2005, 03:52 AM

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YES this is wayyy too weak.

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What do you do then?

Roman · #6 11-21-2005, 03:54 AM

raise to ~300 call a shove obv

gildwulf · #7 11-21-2005, 04:42 AM

This is a very bad fold.

A push is good at the 22s...you want to see all five cards with AK and you will likely be called by some donk-tastic hands.

GrekeHaus · #8 11-21-2005, 04:59 AM

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raise to ~300 call a shove obv

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I see no benefit to doing this rather than pushing.

gildwulf · #9 11-21-2005, 05:02 AM

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raise to ~300 call a shove obv

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I see no benefit to doing this rather than pushing.

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OK, you raise to 300 for half your stack and UTG calls. Flop comes Q72 rainbow and he pushes. You either a) call like a donkey or b) fold with your tail between your legs and wish you had pushed preflop.

#10 11-21-2005, 08:14 AM

I usually just call here. Some times reraise it to 250. Don't know if it's good or bad though.

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