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#1
11-16-2005, 11:49 AM
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Q2s in the big ole blind
3/6 6 max
As the title implies... I'm dealt Q2 crub in the biggie. Button open limps. Which is as much of a read as I had/you need. Small blind calls. He is loose and terrible. He seemed passive but I didn't have many hands on him. Definitely goes too far, definitely calls down too much. EDITED TO ADD: like calls down with busted draws with as little as Q high The flop read: 2spade 6spade 3crub villain bet, I raised, button folded The turn brought an 8heart. Check, bet, call. At the river: 10heart Donk. I... ? 
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#3
11-16-2005, 12:02 PM
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Re: Q2s in the big ole blind
I think I muck on the flop in this small pot. The bet seems useless unless we know that SB is aggressive enough to commonly bet a draw or overs here. The fact that he is a donk actually puts you in worse shape, as this [censored] board is more likely to have caught him.
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#4
11-16-2005, 12:04 PM
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Re: Q2s in the big ole blind
with the bd flush draw and pair with overcard i'm not folding the flop and calling is wrong.
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#5
11-16-2005, 12:19 PM
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Re: Q2s in the big ole blind
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with the bd flush draw and pair with overcard i'm not folding the flop and calling is wrong. [/ QUOTE ] didn't you raise to get a free card? take it. you have already said he is calling you down whether he is on a draw or has a made hand, so there is no such thing as fold equity on the turn against this guy. pot is small. turn did nothing to improve you. a pair of deuces is only a bluff-picker-offer, induce a bluff.
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#6
11-16-2005, 12:24 PM
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Re: Q2s in the big ole blind
i raised to buy myself outs and fold equity.
w/o a frush draw i'm donking the turn to try to fold villain U/I, (folding a hand with outs against me) i also bet the turn intending to take a free showdown U/I i'm really wondering if there's any value in bluff raising here.
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#7
11-16-2005, 12:52 PM
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Re: Q2s in the big ole blind
The way you played it I definitely muck the river. I think you really have to consider checking the turn and then picking off a bluff on the river. I think giving a free card is not so dangerous on the turn because it is unsure whether you are ahead or not.
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#8
11-16-2005, 01:16 PM
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Re: Q2s in the big ole blind
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[ QUOTE ] with the bd flush draw and pair with overcard i'm not folding the flop and calling is wrong. [/ QUOTE ] didn't you raise to get a free card? take it. you have already said he is calling you down whether he is on a draw or has a made hand, so there is no such thing as fold equity on the turn against this guy. pot is small. turn did nothing to improve you. a pair of deuces is only a bluff-picker-offer, induce a bluff. [/ QUOTE ] i like this. how do you have fold equity given your read?
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