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Tricky post-flop scenario
8/16 limit.
EP limps, I limp with KJo in MP, button raises and BB and the rest call. 4 players. Pot is $64 (SB is considered rake) Flop is AdKdJh. EP checks. I bet into pre-flop raiser, who raises. Both BB and EP cold call! What to do? Raiser is aggressive with wide variety of hands. He does not need a lock on this hand to raise post-flop. I am not liking the two cold callers either. If I re-raise here, I can certainly define the button's hand if he caps (AA,KK,AJ,JJ and maybe QTs) in which case I am drawing nearly dead. Meanwhile, I would expect at least one of the cold-callers to call two more bets. However, if the button simply calls my re-raise, it is assumed both cold-callers will call one more bet. But the button may be hoping for a safe turn card and that I will bet into him again so he can raise and force callers to pay 2BBs to chase. Thus, I am not sure if a re-raise on the flop is correct. I too want to see a safe turn card, and am prepared to abandon this hand if I get more action on the turn. I simply call the flop raise. Pot is $128. Turn is a harmless 6c. BB and EP check. I decide to check along. I expect button to bet but if there is a raise from BB or EP I will fold. However, both simply call again. Now what? Pot is $176 and offering me 11:1 on a chance to improve to full house. I assume I can get at least one more bet if I hit FH on the river but if button holds AA,KK I am drawing dead; or AK or JJ nearly dead. I do call and river is another harmless 4h. It is now checked down and I win. Button: AhQh BB : As2s EP : QdJd Any thoughts on how to play this differently? I could have gone ahead and bet into the raiser again on the turn and folded if anyone raised. That may have been best. |
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Re: Tricky post-flop scenario
Raise preflop. 3-bet the flop. Don't post results, in fact if you have time you should edit them out.
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Re: Tricky post-flop scenario
Raise preflop. Flop is ok. Bet the turn.
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Re: Tricky post-flop scenario
Before everyone beats me up for not raising pre-flop, I'll
agree to this point but note that it probably doesn't change the action on the flop. I will still bet into the button, and he is still likely to raise me with the two cold-callers coming in as well. So the question I have is how far are people prepared to take this two pair hand against this much action? If you advocate re-raising the flop, what then is your next course of action if it is capped? If it is not capped, what action do you take if a harmless card comes on the turn but your turn bet is raised (by anyone)? If you were leary of an aggressive player behind you, would you simply fold KJo pre-flop and avoid this scenario to begin with? |
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Re: Tricky post-flop scenario
No, I'd raise preflop. And this isn't a lot of action really. So they coldcalled, they have Ax or Kx or a Q or a diamond draw. You have 2-pair and there are turn cards that are going to slow you down. By just calling you don't define the strength of your opponents hands or your hand, so dealing with scary turn card and bets from your opponents is going to be harder. If you think that's too much action on the flop with 2-pair against an aggressive opponent who doesn't need a lock to raise the flop, you're being a little weak-tight.
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