AQo versus reraise allin

betgo · #1 11-09-2005, 05:33 PM

Live daily tournament. 3 of 10 tables left. Hero is table chip leader with T31K. Villain is second biggest stack with T13K. Blinds 400/800/100.

Hero has played tight/aggressive troughout, is a cautious player, but more aggressive than table with big stack and some passive players. Villain started playing solidly, but has become the most aggressive player at the table. Villain appears to be a strong player and not reckless.

Hero raises to 3000 in 2nd position with AQo. Villain reraises allin for 13000 in 4th position, others fold. Hero is getting 1.8-1 pot odds. Should hero call? What range of hands would you put villain on?

Skjonne · #2 11-09-2005, 05:40 PM

Obvious fold to me. Villain doesn't risk his hole stack with a semi good hand with most of the table still to act (I'm assumming the other players can criple him if not bust him). He'll be respecting your raise more as it comes from EP.

Given your reads, I'd put him on AA-JJ, AK-AQ or maybe even more narrow.

betgo · #3 11-09-2005, 05:54 PM

Another question. What pot odds would you need to call here?

schwza · #4 11-09-2005, 06:05 PM

i would definitely fold here. to call i'd need significantly more pot odds - maybe 2.3:1. one reason is that if i were getting that good odds then it would be less likely to be a resteal with a weak hand.

Skjonne · #5 11-09-2005, 06:27 PM

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Another question. What pot odds would you need to call here?

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If my math is correct you're a 2:1 dog against the range I mentioned. And I really think that range is too wide in the given setting.

Against AA, KK, QQ, AK you're a 3:1 dog

Now I fold even more

betgo · #6 11-09-2005, 08:56 PM

I was villain in this hand. Actually I think my opponent was getting about 2.0-1. He called, showed AQo, and said, "I hope I'm not dominated." I should have had a snappy reply to that, but I just turned over QQ. After he busted me out, he said he called because he thought I was running over the table.

JustPlayingSmart · #7 11-09-2005, 09:11 PM

If villain is strong and not reckless, I would give him TT+, AK+. Villain is a 2.3-1 dog to that range.

In the heat of battle, if I was given 2-1 pot odds, I would almost certainly call with AQ. I would also probably open to 2000-2400.

betgo · #8 11-09-2005, 09:19 PM

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I would also probably open to 2000-2400.

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I would have just open pushed if I were my opponent. I was the only one who could make a reraise he would consider folding to. Even with the big stack, why play a pot out of position.

He could miniraise if he wanted the option to fold to a reraise, but AQo is not a good hand to do that with. Miniraise with a big pair or a stealing hand.

JustPlayingSmart · #9 11-09-2005, 09:25 PM

I don't know if I agree with this. What hands that you would push over the top of a normal raise would you fold if he just moved in? Certainly not QQ+, I doubt AK, JJ, but maybe TT? As for the other players, with chip leader's stack, I don't really think he would mind playing pots with AQ against their ranges. Part of the reason I like to play a big stack is because I can take coin flips. If I lose them, I am still comfortable, and if I win them, I just have more chips to take more coin flips. I have to lose a couple coin flips in a row to have my stack hurt.

#10 11-09-2005, 09:26 PM

Hand Range:

Villain: 99+,AJs+,AJo+
Hero: AQo

Equity: 57.4%/42.6%

This also might be a bit loose of a hand range for Villain. Take out AJo and AJs and your left with just 35.5% equity. I just get out of the way here.