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Old 03-18-2002, 02:41 AM
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Default Segregation Forever



The slogan that Strom Thurmond chose for his Presidential run in 1948. I find it disturbing that the man was able to remain a senator for all these years after running such an overtly racist Presidential campaign. Has he since changed his ways?
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Old 03-18-2002, 03:33 AM
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I don't think he got many political contributions or endorsements from liberals over the years. [img]/images/smile.gif[/img]


However, he has certainly changed his views from the radical views he held half a century ago.



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Old 03-18-2002, 05:19 AM
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An interesting thing along these same lines was the last time George Wallace ran for governor of Alabama. He was supported by many who have vigorously opposed him at an earlier time. He stated that he was never a racist, but was a segregationist, and had changed his ways.
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Old 03-18-2002, 08:26 AM
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Default Re: i voted for strom x 2..



and would vote for him again, but he is clearly demented, and continues to have an outstanding administrative staff which serves his constituents well. his birthplace is 5 miles down the road, his sister died at age 95 a few years ago. i was a big liberal, anti-viet nam , pro minority/womens rights in college 25 years ago.


hey, my first vote was george mcgovern for president, just like the song, and yeah, i would had trouble trying to hide my hair uder a cap at that time.


strom also was the first southern senator to have a black person on his staff, not just token, but hey you never hear about that , do ya. he openly talks about his grandfather who owned slaves, and makes no apologies. the civil rights movement which gave citizens the right to vote really changed the politics. before, you had to be a segregationist, or you could not win.


the excellent public high school (about 50/50 white/black) down the road is strom thurmond high..the home of the rebels..the segregation academy wardlaw is the home of the patriots. go figger..


neal young, we do not need him around...gl
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Old 03-18-2002, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: Segregation Forever



Thurmond remains very conservative (apparently; don't think he's in very good health). People do change, though: Senator Robert Byrd, former majority leader of the Democrats, was a KKK member as a young man; so was one of the paragons of the liberal Warren court, Hugo Black.


No doubt many otherwise liberal people from the south were conservative/racist on race issues; Senator William Fulbright comes to mind.


The "explanation" many have offered, that they were pro-states rights and segregationist, not racist, strikes me as bogus. More likely segregationism and racsim went hand in hand.
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Old 03-18-2002, 06:31 PM
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"He stated that he was never a racist, but was a segregationist, and had changed his ways."


So now he's not a segregationist? Or he still is a segregationist, but was never a racist? So he gets to be a good guy? So if I just don't want any colored's in my neighborhood, or restaraunt, or bathroom, or anywhere else I choose to go, but otherwise I don't have any problem with them, then I'm not a racist?


My point? Segregation was never o.k. Just because it was 1963 or 1948 doesn't absolve Wallace or Thurmond of any wrongdoing. Regardless of the times or prevailing attitudes, a reasonably intelligent person should know that what's going on is wrong. Either they believed in their cause or they just ran the campaign that would get them the most votes. Niether alternative makes me fell better about them.
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Old 03-18-2002, 09:47 PM
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While I agree with you, my point is that politics is sometimes a strange game. Many people who were strongly against GW in 1963 because of his segregationist views would back him many years later. Some said he had changed, others felt that the Democratic Party had done them much good and that they would support its candidate no matter who it was.
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Old 03-18-2002, 10:49 PM
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Default Re: Segregation Forever- Maddox



Did not Lester Maddox say something similar - Segregation now- segregation forever. Whatever happen to that Good 'ol Boy anyway.


Segregation still exists - it is just not codified in any laws anymore - written laws that is.


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Old 03-19-2002, 12:51 AM
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I e-mailed you a story stemming from this post.
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Old 03-19-2002, 02:07 AM
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Thurmond remains very conservative


What does this have to do with being racist or not?


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