weird hand

yvesaint · #1 10-28-2005, 06:04 AM

400 max, 4-handed, Stars. Second orbit, but I've been playing very aggressive, taking down probably 5 of the last 8 pots. Stack sizes:

Button/Hero: 500
SB: 120
BB: 550
UTG: 700

UTG limps, I raise to 20 with T7s. Everyone calls.

Flop (80): Jd 7d 7

check, check, bet of 60, I ???

Bettor seems sort of loose-passive, but then again, only 2 orbits. What's your move here?

Malachii · #2 10-28-2005, 06:08 AM

Make it 200

gunslingner · #3 10-28-2005, 06:34 AM

This bet screams of Jacks up.

I would just call, you have a great chance to stack him if a non-diamond falls on the turn. Also you can get a call from the blinds...

yvesaint · #4 10-28-2005, 06:39 AM

See, this is exactly what I was thinking. There's a good chance SB pushes with 88-99, any overpair, any J, any overcards w/flush draw. And coincidentally, such a push is just enough for me to able to re-raise on top if necessary.

Ghazban · #5 10-28-2005, 09:32 AM

Why is this weird?

gulebjorn · #6 10-28-2005, 09:36 AM

If you've taken down so many pots and have been agressive, I'd say this is a good time to change gears and tighten up. I wouldn't raise with this hand PF. Some of these guys are probably waiting to trap you or come over the top, and this hand can't take much heat. It would be different if you were opening the betting.

Anyway, I agree with making it $200.

#7 10-28-2005, 09:42 AM

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If you've taken down so many pots and have been agressive, I'd say this is a good time to change gears and tighten up. I wouldn't raise with this hand PF. Some of these guys are probably waiting to trap you or come over the top, and this hand can't take much heat. It would be different if you were opening the betting.

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Disagree. 4-handed, if you've been successfully taking down most pots, this bet works fine. Also, I like a mere call here to see how villain behaves on the turn. A bet of 200 gives him too much information. You'd be better off calling, then he has no idea where he's at and it makes it tough for him to play correctly.

gulebjorn · #8 10-28-2005, 09:48 AM

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If you've taken down so many pots and have been agressive, I'd say this is a good time to change gears and tighten up. I wouldn't raise with this hand PF. Some of these guys are probably waiting to trap you or come over the top, and this hand can't take much heat. It would be different if you were opening the betting.

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Disagree. 4-handed, if you've been successfully taking down most pots, this bet works fine. Also, I like a mere call here to see how villain behaves on the turn. A bet of 200 gives him too much information. You'd be better off calling, then he has no idea where he's at and it makes it tough for him to play correctly.

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Uh, misread and thought he was holding the J. Nevermind the raise. I'd probably just fold this.

#9 10-28-2005, 10:26 AM

Raise pot. If he's on the J, he folds. Overpair folds. 7 and kicker calls or pushes.

swolfe · #10 10-28-2005, 10:30 AM

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Raise pot. If he's on the J, he folds. Overpair folds. 7 and kicker calls or pushes.

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so you're raise will fold out worse hands and be called by better. since that's the opposite of what you want to have happen, it seems like there's no reason to make that raise.