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Old 10-27-2005, 02:04 AM
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Default $11 Okay Push?

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Level 7: Blinds (75/150)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 6: Hero ( $1375 )
Seat 3: falcons21ATL ( $1392 )
Seat 1: TrOiCho99 ( $2370 )
Seat 9: brutusmilo ( $2863 )
Trny:16911974 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ As Qh ]
brutusmilo calls [150].
TrOiCho99 folds.
falcons21ATL is all-In [1317]
Hero ?

Villain has been pretty tight/aggressive so far. It seemed like a pretty easy push to me?
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Old 10-27-2005, 02:06 AM
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ez call, unless ur table is extremely tight and ur better off stealing.You'll usually be racing vs a pocket pair or up against Ax here neway.
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Old 10-27-2005, 02:14 AM
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Default Re: $11 Okay Push?

What does that limp mean to you? Is it the normal "I want to play this hand but not for a lot of chips" limp?

Sometimes I call. Sometimes I fold. I'd lean towards calling here though.
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Old 10-27-2005, 02:25 AM
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Default Re: $11 Okay Push?

I like it.
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Old 10-27-2005, 02:28 AM
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ez call, unless ur table is extremely tight and ur better off stealing.You'll usually be racing vs a pocket pair or up against Ax here neway.

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I agree...which is why I like pushing. If you're racing a pocket, okay that's worst case scenario. If you're up against AX or KQ, KJs, etc., then fantastic...excellent chance of a double-up. Plus against just a limp you have pretty decent FE.

On the other hand, you can call off ~12% of your stack and have a >50% chance of not hitting the flop and folding.

Is my logic flawed here...isn't this a push?
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Old 10-27-2005, 02:34 AM
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Default Re: $11 Okay Push?

Are we looking at the same post? Some dude moved in before the hero got to act. I don't see how we can play AQ as we have to be a 54-55% favorite against the pushers range. If he is playing TAG I don't see how we have it in this spot though I could be wrong. From SNGPT, it is a sizable mistake if he is pushing 77+ and A9+.

Edit - If the dude in front pushed I'd call with AK and fold AQ. If the dude in front folded I'd push for sure.
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Old 10-27-2005, 02:42 AM
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Even against a Tag, the blinds are getting steep for the stack that he has. He'll have to end up making a move sooner or later. Only reason i'd fold is if the player wuz a rock and the table wuz really tight. Otherwise this seems like the best spot or you'll have to end up pushing with Ax a bit later down the road.
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Old 10-27-2005, 04:55 AM
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Default Re: $11 Okay Push?

This is not as straightforward as some people are making out.

His range has to be in 33+, A7o+, A4s+, KTs+ to make this profitable to call/push. With your description of him I'd have to say, this is not likely.
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Old 10-27-2005, 04:56 AM
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Are we looking at the same post? Some dude moved in before the hero got to act. I don't see how we can play AQ as we have to be a 54-55% favorite against the pushers range. If he is playing TAG I don't see how we have it in this spot though I could be wrong. From SNGPT, it is a sizable mistake if he is pushing 77+ and A9+.

Edit - If the dude in front pushed I'd call with AK and fold AQ. If the dude in front folded I'd push for sure.

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Finally someone else has looked at the maths.
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Old 10-27-2005, 05:00 AM
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If you're up against KJs, then fantastic...excellent chance of a double-up.

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This is the bubble. It is not "excellent" at all to be up against KJs, seeing as you have to be close to a 55% favourite over his range to make this call, yes AQo v KJs is just over at 59%, but if he has a pocket pair, a call is terrible, as you're ~45%.
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