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Old 10-26-2005, 09:46 PM
golfcchs golfcchs is offline
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Default (22) Playing top pair out of the blinds

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB (t895)
Hero (t1100)
UTG (t2450)
UTG+1 (t705)
MP1 (t760)
MP2 (t775)
CO (t760)
Button (t555)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Button calls t30, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t90) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t50</font>, Button calls t50, SB folds.

Turn: (t190) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t125</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t250</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t565

Button was a typical donk with about 45% volitary put in pot. Given this is this a correct fold after the board pairs? Do you even bet the turn considering the board paired?
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Old 10-26-2005, 09:50 PM
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Default Re: (22) Playing top pair out of the blinds

Why did you bet the turn?

I'm not saying it's stupid, and I'm not telling you what I would do. But if you ask yourself that question and think about it you'll be much closer to figuring out how to play this.
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Old 10-27-2005, 12:20 AM
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Default Re: (22) Playing top pair out of the blinds

I bet the turn in an attempt, all be it a weak one, to block a bluff from the button. If the board does not pair here I would bet every time, but I guess with the qeen pairing its not such a good play. I'm guessing though that you dont aggree with betting the turn even if its a blank.
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Old 10-27-2005, 12:23 AM
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Default Re: (22) Playing top pair out of the blinds

You have to push this. You have the top pair. If he gets lucky and hits trips, then there is nothing you can do about it.
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Old 10-27-2005, 12:27 AM
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Default Re: (22) Playing top pair out of the blinds

Why cant he have a hand, or even have me out kicked?
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Old 10-27-2005, 12:31 AM
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Default Re: (22) Playing top pair out of the blinds

Is this a "bad advice" gimmick account?
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Old 10-27-2005, 02:52 AM
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Default Re: (22) Playing top pair out of the blinds

I would go passive on the turn here. I know the button limped in preflop, but I would still give him credit for some kind of hand. You aren't beating very much here anymore and on the river you could well wind up splitting with weaker aces, one of the few things you do beat.

I would check and call a small bet. If he bet large I'd just fold.

Note that allowing a free card is not much of a problem here. If he's behind, he doesn't have many outs.
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Old 10-27-2005, 02:55 AM
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You have to push this. You have the top pair. If he gets lucky and hits trips, then there is nothing you can do about it.

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LOL you have top pair... play it like its god. Not the best advice around, especially the push part when the pot is 150 or something of the like. I like the bet on the turn, the raise will tell you ur beat.
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