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Old 10-25-2005, 05:59 PM
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Default 22: Pushing over an incomplete big blind

Party 22
Blinds 75/150
Seat 8 is the button
Seat 1: Shortie (50)
Seat 2: Villian (1545)
Seat 6: Uninvolved (2035)
Seat 8: Uninvolved (2345)
Seat 9: Hero (2025)
Hero posts small blind (75)
Shortie posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TRHScc814 [ 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
CardSleuth raises (300) to 300
marvclassic folds.
pahusacheta folds.
TRHScc814 raises (1950) to 2025
TRHScc814 is all-In.

Just checking, but this is a push right? Villian has been limp folding a fair amount during 50/100. His calling range has to be pretty tight as we were practically on the bubble. Im; trying to take the t250 that he put in and then hope to come from behind on the for the t150 main pot with the shorty. Is this play +EV? Thanks for your help.

Results below in white (Not needed but....)
<font color="white"> Villian calls and turns over AA. Flop comes A2J. Turn is a 5. River bricks, and I win with the straight as my heater continues. SHIP IT</font>
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Old 10-25-2005, 06:08 PM
Nick M Nick M is offline
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Default Re: 22: Pushing over an incomplete big blind

IMO this is a clear instamuck.
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Old 10-25-2005, 06:18 PM
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Default Re: 22: Pushing over an incomplete big blind

Practically on the bubble is not the same as bubble. If this were a bubble hand and shortie still have 50, I could see arguement for pushing. Since it's not the bubble, this push is just blatent over aggressiveness. It sucks.
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Old 10-25-2005, 06:18 PM
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Default Re: 22: Pushing over an incomplete big blind

this is just terrible. unless you KNOW he is going to fold I just really do not like re raising too often with 34o. I'm going to go vomit now after seeing your suckout.
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Old 10-25-2005, 06:30 PM
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Default Re: 22: Pushing over an incomplete big blind

I am folding in a heart beat. Pushing never even crossed my mind. The dude bet 6bb and you don't think he will call the push. I think villian is rarely folding after that bet unless he is a complete donk. I guess that would be possible at the 22s but not often enough to be $EV
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Old 10-25-2005, 06:37 PM
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Default Re: 22: Pushing over an incomplete big blind

Oh, goodness.

-You aren't on the bubble with a microstack. You can consider this the bubble, but then there's no microstack, or you can consider that there's a microstack, but then this isn't the bubble. Villain can't fold his way ITM.

-Villain likes his hand. Clearly.

-Your hand is terrible.

-The shortie is all-in. Even if everything goes as planned, they're going to see your hand and you'll need to tighten up considerably, and you won't be able to take advantage of the small stack, who incidentally can make a comeback because you tripled him up instead of letting him bust against Villains decent hand.
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Old 10-25-2005, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: 22: Pushing over an incomplete big blind

i think you also have to realize that this hand will be turned up no matter what. This is very bad for your image when the bubble comes and you try and push again.
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