Big Pot weak draw

J. Stew · #1 10-24-2005, 05:39 PM

Mp3 is tight aggressive
Co is semi-loose passive, 23/0

Normally I just fold the flop, but the pot was pretty big so I figured I'd peel, too loose considering the CO pf cap?

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
4 folds, Hero raises, MP3 3-bets, CO caps, 3 folds, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks, CO bets, Hero calls, MP3 folds.

Turn: (7.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

River: (9.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 10.75 BB

cold_cash · #2 10-24-2005, 05:47 PM

How many hands do you have w/ the CO?

What hands can he have?

Unless you think his range is a lot wider than I do I think folding the flop is prudent.

deception5 · #3 10-24-2005, 05:53 PM

Fold the flop especially since you aren't closing the action, there's a reasonable chance MP3 check/raises.

J. Stew · #4 10-24-2005, 05:57 PM

Yeah I think I still get tied to the pot in my head, I'm like sh*t I raised, I'll peel one, I back into a flush draw and end up losing more money than I should have. ARRGH

#5 10-24-2005, 06:08 PM

I think that you virtually have only backdoor flush outs here and need to fold the flop.

#6 10-24-2005, 06:18 PM

Because you dont close the action and the person who capped pf does, I wouldn't feel bad about folding the flop.

You figure with a cap, he'd have AA, KK, QQ, or AK (maybe one or two more if he is semi-loose). You are essentially dead against all four of those hands.

Fold it and be done with it. Don't go chasing the BDFD.

#7 10-24-2005, 06:31 PM

Nah the call on the turn is super profitable. I think you have to fold the flop though, as you are not closing the action. Even if you were IMO it is pretty slim as I suspect your ace outs are likely not very clean.