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Old 10-21-2005, 03:00 PM
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Default $10/$20 hand-what would you do??

Ok here goes. $10/$20 game. I limp from early position with 8h8c after a guy UTG limps just off the BB. A MP two seats after me raises and everybody calls including the blinds. At this point there's like $100 in the pot and I'm in the pot with 4 opponents. The flop comes down Qh 7h 2c. It gets checked around (hmmmm). The turn comes Qs. So the board is Qh 7h 2c Qs. The SB checks and the BB bets out and its to me with a few guys behind me. What do I do?

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Old 10-21-2005, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: $10/$20 hand-what would you do??

I think it's raise or fold time. A read on the turn bettor would be helpful, but I'd lean towards a raise.
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Old 10-21-2005, 03:05 PM
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No read on turn bettor.

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Old 10-21-2005, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: $10/$20 hand-what would you do??

I'd bet that flop to gain info.

I raise the turn.
The BB could easily have a 7 or a 2 here (In fact I would say that more probable than a Q). The chances of someone having a queen in late position have been reduced by:
A) There are now only 2 outstanding
B) I would expect a late position player to bet the flop with a queen to drive out hands with 1 overcard.
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Old 10-21-2005, 03:27 PM
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Default Re: $10/$20 hand-what would you do??

Definitely bet the flop. You might be best and you might be raised by a worse hand. How do you feel about free cards if your 8's are currently good?

As played, go ahead and raise the turn. If you get reraised fold. Then play well on the river.

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Old 10-21-2005, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: $10/$20 hand-what would you do??

I agree with the raise on the turn but bet the flop into a sizable field with that hand and a preflop raiser behind?

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Old 10-21-2005, 03:36 PM
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This turn is not raise or fold. The BB's most likely hand is a 7. Any flush draw or queen would have likely bet the flop, so I would call, and pay close attention to what the players behind you do. You likely have the better beaten, and everyone else is probably folding, and if it comes back to you for two more you can fold comfortably.
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Old 10-21-2005, 03:47 PM
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Default Re: $10/$20 hand-what would you do??

I'd fold the turn, but I think raising is ok too. Betting the flop sucks.
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Old 10-21-2005, 03:50 PM
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Default Re: $10/$20 hand-what would you do??

I completely agree. I think the OP is normally either sitting pretty or royally screwed. BB could completely play this way with a queen, with the whole "check to the raiser" thing, but it would really depend on how the opponents are. If uncertain about the table, a default raise could theoretically drive out overcards and/or weak preflop raiser (i.e. 99-JJ, AK?).
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Old 10-21-2005, 04:05 PM
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Default Re: $10/$20 hand-what would you do??

Exactly, I actually thought the big blind might have me here and missed a CR opportunity on the flop. Of course I couldnt be sure...But I think betting on the flop is the wrong move regardless of any other variable.

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