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10-20-2005, 03:57 PM
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Maintaining an image
I predominantly play the $25NL 6max tables. People here seem to think these players don't adjust to our play or don't even take notice at these stakes (maybe they aren't as LAG as me with 30/16 stats?). But from my experience most players, especially the loose donks that infest these stakes ALWAYS take notice. At least one or two guys at a table will notice my LAG tendencies and start calling all of my preflop raises and c-bet bluffs.
So after a while of trying to run over the table in this way, I feel that my image just starts to cause too much trouble and my PFRs and c-bets stop being profitable. What are some ways to handle this? Leave the table? Tighten up for 30 minutes or something? Continue to PFR as normally but stop c-betting until you have a hand with good equity? 
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#2
10-20-2005, 04:07 PM
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Re: Maintaining an image
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I predominantly play the $25NL 6max tables. People here seem to think these players don't adjust to our play or don't even take notice at these stakes (maybe they aren't as LAG as me with 30/16 stats?). But from my experience most players, especially the loose donks that infest these stakes ALWAYS take notice. At least one or two guys at a table will notice my LAG tendencies and start calling all of my preflop raises and c-bet bluffs. So after a while of trying to run over the table in this way, I feel that my image just starts to cause too much trouble and my PFRs and c-bets stop being profitable. What are some ways to handle this? Leave the table? Tighten up for 30 minutes or something? Continue to PFR as normally but stop c-betting until you have a hand with good equity? [/ QUOTE ] Change gears and play like me at NL25 full table: 17/4/4. Then, after a while, change back. Keep doing this.
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#3
10-20-2005, 04:08 PM
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Re: Maintaining an image
I also think the other players notice things a little more than we tend to give them credit for around here. They can still play dumb, but they at least are aware of some of the things that you are doing.
Mix it up is an answer to your question. Play LAG, play TAG, be a loose calling station, be the dreaded tight weak for a few playable hands. I always say I am TAG, but truth be told, I'm probably not. I'm always adjusting and doing different things like playing crap hole cards OOP. Mix things up, play the opposite of what the table is playing, try to get the most value out of your made hands that you can. If you are shucking and jiving from time to time, you should be able to get paid off and keep the villians from playing back at you when you don't want them to.
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#5
10-20-2005, 04:12 PM
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Re: Maintaining an image
Well if they see you as a LAG and they're adjusting to your play, it's time to switch gears. Don't leave the table. Take advantage of your table image and switch it up (play tighter). If you get a big hand now, it sounds like you'll get action.
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10-20-2005, 04:13 PM
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Re: Maintaining an image
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Cool thanks for the reply. What's a good timeframe with which to tighten up you think? [/ QUOTE ] I don't really change gears because my games allow me to get paid off every time a hit a big hand anyway. However, I would say you shift to something more near my style after your opponents start calling your c-bets and switch back to your style some time after your opponents stop calling your value bets on flops. It's all by feel. You may not need to switch back for awhile if your opponents have plenty of money.
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10-20-2005, 04:13 PM
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Re: Maintaining an image
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I predominantly play the $25NL 6max tables. People here seem to think these players don't adjust to our play or don't even take notice at these stakes (maybe they aren't as LAG as me with 30/16 stats?). But from my experience most players, especially the loose donks that infest these stakes ALWAYS take notice. At least one or two guys at a table will notice my LAG tendencies and start calling all of my preflop raises and c-bet bluffs. So after a while of trying to run over the table in this way, I feel that my image just starts to cause too much trouble and my PFRs and c-bets stop being profitable. What are some ways to handle this? Leave the table? Tighten up for 30 minutes or something? Continue to PFR as normally but stop c-betting until you have a hand with good equity? [/ QUOTE ] yeah after a while when you bowl them over they notice. pay particular attention to HOW they react. I saw one guy with what would be considered solid stats play back at me post, he 3 bet A/I against me with his AK overs and I was forced to fold my pair of 4s that I figured were good. BUT I realized after a few more minutes that he WOULDN'T change preflop. This seems to be the general trend. Also, when you do get called, most players will play back mainly on the flop, so don't cbet flop when you miss, but do do it when you hit (for a short period of time). The turn then becomes the time to push the weakies off their hand sice they give it up by then and figure "he has a hand this time." or if they are really weak, do cbet be prepared to fire a second barrel, but this need a much better read bc villain may be more inclined to call down with say middle pair
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10-20-2005, 04:18 PM
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Re: Maintaining an image
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[ QUOTE ] Cool thanks for the reply. What's a good timeframe with which to tighten up you think? [/ QUOTE ] watch how wtfsvi plays in 2+2 games. [/ QUOTE ] I'd love to see this as well.
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